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[chrisc]

[Diane]

[Real Truther]

Oh OK, I can't wait to know what "Diane the New York Activist" thinks of demolition! You're a model of efficiency, honey--the perps are getting their money's worth with you that's for sure.

[johndoraemi]

God, I hate getting sucked into these endless time wasting spats.

There's a very good reason for not putting all your eggs in the demolition basket ... not everyone is swayed, or responds to the claim, yet they do respond to other claims (like proving the cover-up in any of a hundred ways).

This point is easily made by viewing the Bill Maher incident, where his ENTIRE AUDIENCE boos the "Building 7" guy, and the Maher forums overflow with bile and hatred against the truther demolition crowd. It was very ugly, and pretty unproductive.

Case closed. The strategy didn't work (contrary to the endless mantras of RT/Keenan).

Other strategies do work. I don't need to argue about it anymore. That's my opinion, such that it is. There is quite a bit more to talk about than building number 7, which I'm sick of.

In response to RT's comment about Pakistan and Saudis -- we have a large body of evidence which requires more investigation. Is that "over stating the case?" Wasn't the purpose of the "truth" movement to get at the truth? Is there something odd about having to ask that question?

You overstate your case by implying that only Israelis were involved. That's not proven in any way, shape or form. We actually don't know much about the Israelis' relationship to the operation.

I have suggested highly relevant FOIA requests to make to the Port Authority regarding Urban Moving Systems and the van full of explosives reported at the GW bridge.

No one. Not one person using their real name will file the FOIAs.

I ain't gonna do it.

If you know a "real" truther who has the guts to put up, here's what I have come up with:


Kathy P. Bincoletto
Freedom of Information Administrator
Office of the Secretary
Port Authority of NY & NJ
225 Park Avenue South - 17th Fl.
New York, NY 10003
Tel. (212) 435-2542
Fax (212) 435-7555
email: kbincoletto@panynj.gov


1) All traffic stops involving the George Washington Bridge detail on September 11th 2001 both near or on the bridge including the multiple roads leading to the GW Bridge locally in Fort Lee NJ and on routes: 46, 80, 95, and the Palisades Parkway.

2) Any and all police records from 9/11/01 related to men stopped or arrested in a van.

3) Any and all police records from September to December 2001 which mention "Urban Moving Systems."

4) Any security situation or warnings issued concerning the George Washington Bridge on 9/11/01, including closures, and the details and duration of this closure.

5) Any records of contact with the Federal Bureau of Investigation on 9/11/01 or 9/12/01.

6) Any contact/liason with any bomb squad officers on 9/11/01 or 9/12/01.

7) Any contact/liason with local Fort Lee police on 9/11/01 or 9/12/01.

9) Any contact/liason with other federal agencies including Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms, the Department of Justice or the Secret Service on 9/11/01 or 9/12/01.

10) Any contact/liason with the police commissioner of New York City or the NYC Mayor's Office on 9/11/01 or 9/12/01.

Welcome to the FBI's FOIA Website
http://foia.fbi.gov/


You know, RT, this would actually make your case if they have left incriminating evidence in those files. I guess we'll never know?
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