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victronix01 · Joined: 18 Sep 2007 Posts: 1704

More to divide --

"The 9/11 truth movement is so much larger, more active and more powerful a political force than the Green Party, that to separate yourself from it would be to condemn yourself to continuing irrelevance"

http://www.911blogger.com/node/12946

Some don't see an issue with this, but imo, posting the private email from someone not in agreement with 9/11 truth will not help the situation, only inflame it.

siddhartha · Joined: 25 Jul 2007 Posts: 413

I posted a separate thread on this but i will include it here as this is the culmination of "DisinfoFest 2007" - a slickly marketed dvd of the conference which in turn promotes the hoaxes of Wood, Reynolds, September Clues, Al Webre, etc - being sold by Sofia of 911 Mysteries fame:

victronix01 · Joined: 18 Sep 2007 Posts: 1704

>>being sold by Sofia of 911 Mysteries fame

An email of about this DVD and noting that Sophia is selling it should go out to all in leadership positions, including those who organize events at 911truth.org, or they will not know.

No one should be selling this.

Col. Jenny Sparks · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 2329

victronix01 · Joined: 18 Sep 2007 Posts: 1704

On his latest show he highlights only the mention by Perkins (Economic Hitman) of the most well documented hoax in the movement, as though there hasn't been enough press about it:

John Perkins: "Yeah, and there are some excellent books and some excellent dvds and films on that whole subject including the one that shows that there was never a plane shown crashing into the Pentagon which haven't gotten around very much. I wish they would get around more."

Wow, another idiot (or something) for 9/11 truth . . . naturally, he's promoted for this on mujca, which supposedly someone *else* is in charge of now . . .

http://mujca.com/hitman.htm

Col. Jenny Sparks · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 2329

siddhartha · Joined: 25 Jul 2007 Posts: 413

victronix01 · Joined: 18 Sep 2007 Posts: 1704

She seems to be a regular person, involved in a church, Christian. But it also seems like that's just a front, since he obviously will continue to post and do everything else.

Col. Jenny Sparks · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 2329

victronix01 · Joined: 18 Sep 2007 Posts: 1704

>>7 DAYS A WEEK -- 8 Times per day -- NO LIES NEWS - a 911Truth News Headline Show hosted by Kevin Barrett

Seven days a week of Kevin Barrett???

This should be interesting . . .

http://www.911blogger.com/node/13704

I saw that no lies radio featured Von Kleist as an "artist" and that was red flag, another person who doesn't care about evidence getting involved to be front and center to the public for our movement . . . "evidence" doesn't matter as long as you get a mob running somewhere with torches.

I hope people can take a look at this effort and even offer to help out or get involved, to help keep things real. I'm sure there are good intentions, just that a lot of out here who feel that evidence does indeed matter . . .

JohnA · Joined: 05 Oct 2007 Posts: 949

i think Jenny Sparks wrote a very convincing and comprehensive list of grievances associated with Mr. Barrett's particular brand of activism. i view these issues as 'not minor'.

so - the part of my brain that still attempts to process all of this continues to be stymied by www.911Truth.org's continued advocacy of Barrett's work.

Just today we see their top headline announcing Barrett's participation in a radio interview.

where is the disconnect here? Is 911Truth.org, which is otherwise very careful in its selection of material, simply ignorant of Mr. Barrett's history? Or is 911Truth.org perhaps still hopeful that Mr. Barrett will return to morocco to find the living hijackers? Or perhaps 911Truth.org find's Mr. Barrett's book - "Truth Jihad" - to be a scholarly work of journalism? Or perhaps his continued promotion of Jim Fetzer excites 911Truth.org?

Why would 911Truth.org want to point a potentially new audience in the direction of Kevin Barrett and the dynamic duo?

Can someone please explain this to me?

chrisc · Joined: 25 Sep 2007 Posts: 1168

truthmover · Joined: 19 Oct 2007 Posts: 1550 Location: Los Angeles

John,

Some sort of an answer.

There is a continuing debate within the movement about the benefit of national coordination. Do we need a national organization helping all the smaller groups to work in unison, or is it better to simply let all the local organizations do their own thing? I can't really answer that question very easily, but I can suggest one of the drawbacks of national organizations that appears to be the basis of your criticism of 911truth.org.

As you know, 911truth.org is not run by one person, and those on the steering committee vary greatly in their approach to the issue and their preferred strategies. Some of them agree with Barrett's position, and other's do not. And as a national organization they are under some pressure not to alienate large portions of those who participate in the movement. Of course they still do from time to time.

So, for instance, as Kevin Barrett is apparently respected by many in the movement, and there are those on the steering committee who appreciate his approach and contribution, it is not likely that they would take a stand against his participation.

In essence, being a national organization makes it more difficult to steer clear of creating a big tent. You might not like the result. I don't either in some ways. But I think its also important to acknowledge that this result is based on the diversity of those running the organization, some of whom I know agree with your objections, and also the unique challenges of trying to provide national coordination.

I think they could work harder to come to a consensus on some of the issues that trouble both of us, but I also don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

By the way, I got into an interesting back and forth with Kevin Barrett yesterday on 911blogger about his advocacy of the 'big tent approach.'

http://www.911blogger.com/node/13704

Scott N · Joined: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 1525

Barrett wrote: