Killtown on Kevin Barrett's show (Oct 3, 2008)
I've been told that according to this video which I haven't watched yet, I'm being called a "nazi" along with Col. Sparks by Barrett. Reprehensor is also called a "thug" in the video.
Oh dear, Killklown still playing at being the victim. Surely (as Oscar might have said, yet again) only someone with a heart of cold stone could listen and not feel like laughing out loud?
Still, coming from someone who I'm not sure even qualifies as a vertebrate, I don't think you guys don't have much to worry about.
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Wow. What a mess of internally contradictory statements and self-serving propaganda. Barrett is certainly one of the strongest advocates for maintaining a 'big tent.'
It's truly incredible how much double-speak and misdirection we see here. They are claiming that their opposition is utilizing exactly the tactics they do.
They push one fallacy pretty hard that doesn't hold any water. They argue that if 'no planes' research was a cointel op that the mainstream media would be using it to slander the movement. They explicitly ignore at that moment the possibility that this speculation could be solely meant to create internal division and distraction. Something both of these guys seem pretty good at. And something they exclusively blame on everyone but themselves.
I think that this audio is important as it demonstrates so many of the concerns being expressed above. _________________ http://911truthburnout.blogspot.com
I've been told that according to this video which I haven't watched yet, I'm being called a "nazi" along with Col. Sparks by Barrett. Reprehensor is also called a "thug" in the video.
This might be my first moderated post....
Wow, this sure is the whitest of whitewashes these poor "persecuted" crybabies have ever come up with.
In it Killtown and his girlfriend Jennifer attempt to intimidate people by posting what they think is personal information.(and fumble the op by forgetting to attack their accomplice pretending to be one of us, but thats another story).
BTW--accurate or not, not only is this a TOS violation(to which the moderators at 911Blogger rose magnificently to thwart), but can actually get you sued--attempting to post personal information of a person who is not a public figure is privacy invasion.
Also note: Killtown and jennifers actions are completely unprovoked. They show up in the thread, out of the blue and start shite. No one was talking about them. They are not defending themselves. Their sole purpose is to harass and attempt to intimidate.
This is in October of 2007. Hmmm....what was going on about this time? Oh, yeh, their friend Webster Tarpley, with the help of Kevin Barrett, Captain May and James Fetzer, were caught and nailed for trying to slander peace activists through the Kennebunkport Warning fiasco. When this failed, these illustrious "leaders" decide to "hunt down" the activists who exposed their shite, with a combination of betrayal, treachery, intimidation tactics and death threats. By attempting to post peoples info during this time, Killtown and Jennifer were knowingly helping endanger peoples lives.
So it is too rich to listen to these two cunts(Barrett and Killtown) who have cheerfully assisted in unethical and illegal behavior, whine about being victims. It is also the height of irony that two stout supporters of Captain May, a transparent antisemite, should call Arabesque and myself, "Nazis". And lets not forget the person they backed up in fall of 2007, Webster Tarpley, was a highranking Larouchite, and probably still is. As such, managing harassment ops that often leave people dead would be childs play.
Honestly, this doesn't bother me personally. It just shows how desperate a cyberstalker and domestic abuser must be to try to cling to each other in a delusional attempt to get both their credibility back.
Killtown, you're looking for approval from a man arrested for domestic abuse. What does that say about you?
Barrett, you're giving a platform to a known cyberstalker. What does that say about you?
The both of you were willing to back up a man most probably an accessory on multiple accounts of murder for a political cult?
I'll go out on a limb and say it shows you are both evil soulless trash.
Killtown is promoting the idea that no planes were used anywhere in the 9/11 attacks.
The thousands of witnesses in NYC - including many of the oral histories documented by first responders on the scene - as well as the multitude of photos and videos from every conceivable angle - were all faked.
and Kevin Barrett gives this man a stage for promoting this - as well as continuing his attacks against other activists?
Killtown is promoting the idea that no planes were used anywhere in the 9/11 attacks.
The thousands of witnesses in NYC - including many of the oral histories documented by first responders on the scene - as well as the multitude of photos and videos from every conceivable angle - were all faked.
and Kevin Barrett gives this man a stage for promoting this - as well as continuing his attacks against other activists?
do the math folks. this speaks for itself.
Again, the theory here is that NO PLANES were used on 911. Is anyone really this dumb?
As I understand it, there have been about a half a dozen people promoting this theory from the get go. Now I'm no investigative journalist, but if I were looking for "Mockingbird"-type persons I'd know where to start.
Barrett on Poland, Jews, and his academic martyrdom.
What are the exact words of Barrett with regards to this? Sorry, I don't have audio at work.
Edit: Is it my imagination, or did this question that now appears on the transparency event site:
What about the allegations going around about you saying that Germany's invasion of Poland was "worse?" Did you say that, and if so, why.
Get changed from something like:
What about the allegations going around about you saying that Germany's invasion of Poland was "worse than toasting 6M Jews?" Did you say that, and if so, why.
I could have SWORN it said that. Now, as the question is worded, it makes no sense. "Worse" than what?
Barrett's response is, "This story was invented by Brian Good." I have no idea who Brian Good is, but it sounds like Kevin is denying he said it. Again, Kevin's exact words would be helpful.
I didn't like the way Jim [Fetzer] handled the Scholars for 9/11 Truth split. I think he was manipulated and egged on by the deplorable Rick Siegal, just as Steve and his friends were manipulated and egged on by the only somewhat less deplorable Victoria Ashley. It was a real tragedy for the 9/11 truth movement, and Jim's ego bears a lot of the responsibility.
His purpose is to make Fetzer out to be a victim of everyone, which is pretty transparent, given everything they give a voice to on their radio programs.
Quote:
Despite his lack of politesse, PR savvy, and sound scholarship on the "no planes" issue, Jim [Fetzer] has done a lot of good work for 9/11 truth that has been under-appreciated due to the firestorm over his championing of controversial theories
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I understand Jim [Fetzer] will be doing an appearance with Korey Rowe of Loose Change in Argentina on 9/11/09, and it's slated to get nationwide media coverage there. . . . I think it's time for the anti-Fetzer brigade to call off the witch-hunt and return to responsible critique.
What Barrett said on mainstream AM radio was: "Starting a war by invading someone else's country, somebody who didn't strike you first, is the supreme crime--worse than genocide, worse than toasting six million Jews."
Bastard. He may be technically right, but he is morally and ethically wrong. He couldn't say, "worse than murdering 6 million jews..." or "worse than the holocaust during WWII..." or "worse than the atrocity that took place against the jewish people during WWII..." etc... etc... etc...?
He had to be completely disrespectful instead. Shameful. Makes one wonder what his intentions are or reasoning is for blaming the entire ideology of Zionism for 9/11.
Something I told someone the other day...
"The Defense Industry Lobbies, the Pharmaceutical Lobbies, the Alcohol Lobbies, the Gun Rights Lobbies, the Tobacco Lobbies, the Insurance Lobbies, etc... etc... etc... all may have something to say about Kevin's idea that the "Zionists" have so much control in this country. TRUE Zionism has a religious aspect to it, and I've got news for you... the individuals in this country that most support Israel aren't Jewish. They are southern baptists, Christians, Catholics, etc... who believe Israel must be fruitful and multiply in order for Jesus to return. They also believe in the protection of Israel no matter the detriment to anyone else. Those are what "Zionists" are. Those are the people that our elected officials use for votes when they need them. The people responsible for 9/11 are not religious. They are murdering bastard criminals who need to be held to account for the crime that they committed. It seems Kevin is more concerned about disproving the idea that men who may have been Muslim had anything to do with the attacks than he is about seeking the truth."
As I have said countless times... I do not support America's policies regarding Israel. I do not support AIPAC's influence over American politicians. I do not support Israel's connection to the wiretapping of this country. I do not support Zionism. I do not support using the Holocaust as a "get out of jail free card." I do not support Israel being allowed to have nuclear weapons, and being able to dictate who does, and doesn't have them in the Middle East. I do not support Israel's settlements. I do not support how Israel's soldiers treat Palestinians. I DO NOT support the recent U.S. supported wars against Lebanon, and the Gaza Strip. I DO NOT support the "anti-semitic" label as it is used by those who wish to support Israel's criminality. I DO NOT support how the American media is geared towards making Israel look like the forever good guy.
However, I do not blame the entire ideology of Zionism for 9/11. I blame the individuals who were behind it, and actually, I place part of the blame on the people of America for allowing the system that brought us 9/11 to get into place. I have said many times that if Muslims, Arabs, Jews, Americans, Saudis, Pakistanis, Episcopalians, etc... were involved DOES NOT mean you blame EVERYONE affiliated with them.
Here's a question for ANY of you. Would you, or have you EVER referred to any of the brutal murders that have taken place against the Afghanis, Iraqis, or Pakistanis as a "toasting?" "We toasted those Iraqis, Afghanis, Pakistanis..." I have NEVER said ANYTHING like that, and have given up the last 7 years of my life to help end the atrocities taking place against those people in the name of 9/11. How fucking dare he.
Correction: After 9/11, I may have said some things that I NOW regret, but ever since I became involved with this, I have NEVER.
Does no one remember this?
Is one Arab the same as all Arabs? How DARE that work in America.
By the way... our "leaders" or those who may have been involved in 9/11, might consider themselves to be "religious" in a warped, demented kind of way (Rumsfeld's religious notes, Bush's religious God nonsense), but I GUARANTEE those who participated in the 9/11 attacks do NOT follow the REAL teachings of Jesus, et al...
I am reminded of a quote from Ghandi...
"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
I'm done my rant. Suffice to say, yea... I was offended. I am NOT religious by any stretch of the imagination, but I respect the religion my Grandfather loved so much. I've even written about it.
Damn fine rant, Jon. I agree with everything you said. I've done my damnedest to keep 9/11 Truth a hate-free zone not just for idealistic reasons but for political ones too--because the Jews can help us and the Nazis can only hurt us.
I agree with everything you said about Israel. There's a way to go about criticizing Israel and a way not to. You do it right and Barrett does it wrong.
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