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dicktater
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Alex has been released. Two videos from a live feed are here:
http://www.justin.tv/wearechange
Alex was charged with using a sound device without a permit. This was something for which the NYPD could have issued a cititation. However, they chose to cuff him and take him away in a squad car.
Alex said that the cuffing was more painful than when he nearly cut his finger off some years ago. He said that the cop was grunting while squeezing the cuffs as tightly as possible. He said that the other cops were polite. He seemed very up when released, and hungry.
No word yet on the rest of his crew. It seems from the first video that his crew was trying to video his being taken away. I'm not sure but, it looked like the cops took possession of their camera equipment, as though they were trying to delete the video. |
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Christophera
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| Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 5:37 pm Post subject: Re: Alex Jones and others arrested at Fox News protest in NY |
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Okay, sensationalism can be used 2 ways. Alex will use it his way and Geraldo will use how he may. But what about the deepest interests of America? The truth about 9-11?
A 1, 300 foot tall deception has been foisted and the truth movement may not even mention it in NYC. The core of the towers was a steel reinforced cast concrete tube and NO ONE can prove it is not. Or no one can prove it was the steel core columns that FEMA says it was.
The entire movement is being manipulated by social fear regarding the presentation of this huge deception. The manipulation is being conducted by an infiltration of the 9-11 truth movement. The manipulation has created a stigma based in ridicule of the notion of the concrete core and now the sincere leaders of the truth movement are afraid to publicly mention the quest for the true design of the towers core.
and make it an issue. Yes, social fears control us that much!
The concrete core is the only was to explain the events of 9-11 at the WTC. Concrete can be instantly fractured to fall freely by a small amount of properly placed high explosives, steel cannot.
Not one realistic and feasible explanation for;
free fall
total pulverization
superfine, heated particulate
smooth, square cut column ends x the 1, 000's
heavy steel assemblies thrown hundreds of feet.
has been produced a without consideration of the concrete core.
A two part, 16 minute video on google proves there were no steel core columns.
Twin Tower Deception and Demolition I
Twin Tower Deception and Demolition II
Please ask the real leaders of the 9-11 truth movement to bring attention to the massive core deception prempting and preventing the truth of 9-11.
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Keenan
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Christophera, are you still pushing that concrete core bull shit? Don't you have anything better to do than to troll around all the different 9/11 forums with your time wasting BS, trying to divert people's energy into a black hole?
Before anybody is tempted to try to debate Christophera, you might want to read how his/her shtick played out at Signs of the Times forum, here:
http://www.signs-of-the-times.org/signs/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4195
Basically, it was nothing but a huge distraction and annoyance. Everybody else finally gave up and ignored Christophere after realizing that they were being led in circles to nowhere useful.
Darren Brown's The Art of Distraction would be a useful reference to this shtick. |
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Rowan Berkeley
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At least this is a testable claim, from that thread, Keenan:
People ridicule this message because of the date, April 1, 2006 it was posted at physorg.com, or accuse me of fabricating it, but I did not, nor did I with the above [omitted here - RB]. They are both absolutely genuine, and I do believe Robertson authored this. Something about it speaks to the exact state of mind I would expect from him at this point.
"Christophera is correct in stating that the Twin Towers were constructed with a concrete core. Although in my original design the core was to be a steel framed one that decision was overridden by Minoru Yamasaki the architect.
"That core should have resisted the airplane impacts AND the fires. I have said nothing for four and a half years but can remain silent no longer. My belief is that only explosives could have caused WTC 1 & WTC 2 to collapse the way they did on September 11, 2001.
"Leslie E. Robertson
"Director Leslie E. Robertson Associates, R.L.L.P. and lead engineer of the World Trade Center"
http://www.signs-of-the-times.org/signs/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=29264#p29264 |
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Keenan
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| Rowan, that alleged quote from Leslie Robertson is a fabrication. Nobody has baan able to produce the original letter. It was made up. Period. Don't just accept some claim that so and so said such and such. Anybody can fabricate a letter on the internet. For something like that, you need a source. C'mon Rowan, don't fall for this crap. Fantastic claims require fantastic evidence. In the case of the concrete core fantastic claim, there is zero evidence. Zilch. There is nothing to back up this theory but false claims and bogus pseudo-scientific analysis. |
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Arabesque
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Although I haven't look at this issue closely, I can tell you that he was apparently banned from the STJ911 Forum for continuously debating this issue.
As for that Robertson quote, it sure looks phony to me, but that's just my opinion. In fact, it contradicts some of what he has said in an interview with Steven Jones (which you can read an analysis of in the Journal of 9/11 Studies).
If it was genuine wouldn't it get more attention from the 9/11 truth community?
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Col. Jenny Sparks
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| Arabesque wrote: | Although I haven't look at this issue closely, I can tell you that he was apparently banned from the STJ911 Forum for continuously debating this issue.
As for that Robertson quote, it sure looks phony to me, but that's just my opinion. In fact, it contradicts some of what he has said in an interview with Steven Jones (which you can read an analysis of in the Journal of 9/11 Studies).
If it was genuine wouldn't it get more attention from the 9/11 truth community? |
Last year we had the luck to have a guy who'd lived in NY near the WTC site when it was being built. As a part of his colledge(?) program in architecture(mind, my memory is hazy here) he got to walk around the site, presumably escorted for safety. I think he might have mentioned something as odd as a concrete core for a steel frame building.
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