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siddhartha



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 11:16 pm    Post subject: Kevin Barrett promoting disinfo Reply with quote

http://www.911blogger.com/node/10283

"join the cutting edge of the movement to save our planet" along with Jim Fetzer, Judy Wood and Morgan Reynolds... yeah right!
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imgstacke



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah - seems like Barrett's credibility is being spent to keep Fetzer inside the city walls.

So who else got a lot of Fox Coverage?

Ewww - Bowman - (Mr. Star Wars) - ick - don't like how this is turning out.
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siddhartha



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FOX had Bowman on?
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imgstacke



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah - sometime last year - just the parrallel between DEW and his experience with SDI makes me wonder what his position is about Fetzer&Co. Anyone know if he has taken a position on all of that garbage?
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Arabesque



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

imgstacke wrote:
Yeah - seems like Barrett's credibility is being spent to keep Fetzer inside the city walls.

So who else got a lot of Fox Coverage?

Ewww - Bowman - (Mr. Star Wars) - ick - don't like how this is turning out.


I agree, but I don't really know much about Bowman, except that he appeared to be fairly careful in his statements and talk about conclusive evidence such as the NORAD stand down--as a former pilot interceptor.

Usually I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt when they promote disinformation, but Barrett's close association with Fetzer is a red flag to me.

Someone wanted him to be an intermediary between after the two scholar groups broke up, but that didn't happen.

Anyone who doesn't think that the scholar breakup wasn't intentional sabotage isn't paying attention. Fetzer's "hostile takeover" charges against Dr. Jones were hilariously bad theater.

Luckily, I had the good feeling to stay away from the first scholar group even though I strongly supported Dr. Jones' work (and still do). There needs to be a mechanism to identify deliberate division and CoIntelPro style antics. Harassing phone calls, deliberately misleading hit pieces, and smear campaigns--are just some of the things Fetzer, and his Disinfo underlings have engaged in.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arabesque wrote:
There needs to be a mechanism to identify deliberate division and CoIntelPro style antics. Harassing phone calls, deliberately misleading hit pieces, and smear campaigns--are just some of the things Fetzer, and his Disinfo underlings have engaged in.


Maybe this will be of some help:

Phil's Field Guide to Trolls, Version 5.11

http://www.themartialist.com/pecom/fieldguidetotrolls.htm

Example:

The Antrollpologist - Antrollpologists are those fascinated by the psychology, behavior, and identification of trollkind. They tend to write lengthy guides about spotting and dealing with trolls, which makes them particularly troubling to the disruptors in question.
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imgstacke



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not accusing anyone of anything - Barrett is blowing all of his credibility in time with the 6th anniversary - thats how they work - stifle the movement as peoples attention starts to slowly move to 9/11/07.

No signs needed to make people revisit this topic, so they are around just to pop up to act the part of the Wacko Conspiracy Theorist to make the public turn around and go back to sleep.

Anyway Bowman connection is purely coincidental at this state - Fox appearance and Star Wars/SDI involvement which sounds to perfect not to be used with DEW.
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Arabesque



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dicktater wrote:
Arabesque wrote:
There needs to be a mechanism to identify deliberate division and CoIntelPro style antics. Harassing phone calls, deliberately misleading hit pieces, and smear campaigns--are just some of the things Fetzer, and his Disinfo underlings have engaged in.


Maybe this will be of some help:

Phil's Field Guide to Trolls, Version 5.11

http://www.themartialist.com/pecom/fieldguidetotrolls.htm

Example:

The Antrollpologist - Antrollpologists are those fascinated by the psychology, behavior, and identification of trollkind. They tend to write lengthy guides about spotting and dealing with trolls, which makes them particularly troubling to the disruptors in question.


I had planned on witting a parody/critique of the trolling phenomenon on 911 blogger by defining it as a disease called "trollitis" where certain users displayed "symptoms" to a higher or lesser degree and various types.

I never finished or published it, but maybe reading something like this might motivate me do that.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like Bob Bowman, I hosted a speaking engagement he did in Oakland and he joined us for our June 11 street action in SF.

I didn't get a chance to ask him his thoughts on the DEW etc shenanigans.

The lineup of this conference sure is interesting.
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Nunyabiz



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bowman is far from disinfo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUOOnhbf-hA

Here is a man running for Congress and he puts both Paul & Kucinich to shame. Sounds to me like he is telling it like it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5gio_iR2WE

We should be so lucky as to have someone like Bowman as President.

I cant believe Barrett is shooting himself in the foot like this.
Fetzer & Wood are clearly disinfo or at very least have lost their minds.
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Jon Gold



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I confronted Kevin on this yesterday. It wasn't pretty, but I'm not going to post our emails online. Let's just say that I was not happy.

I will post my final remark to him...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_h3P7POHnJc

If you are not careful, you will be discredited.

Words to live by. If you give "them" something to discredit you with, "they" will discredit you, and it doesn't matter what good information you promote, "they" will ignore it, and put the focus on the bullshit.

All we can do is promote the best information possible, and hope that someone listens. We can't control what other people do, but we sure as shit don't have to put them on center stage for the world to see.

Jon
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Arabesque



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon Gold wrote:

All we can do is promote the best information possible, and hope that someone listens. We can't control what other people do, but we sure as shit don't have to put them on center stage for the world to see.Jon[/i]


We've already had the Morgan Reynolds debacle on Fox news, and now this.

This is something I would fully expect from the likes of Barrett's "friend" Jim Fetzer.

The Dynamic Duo, Indeed. http://www.gcnlive.com/pgmsDyduo.htm

How can anyone CONTINUE to support Jim Fetzer after what happened at Scholars for 9/11 Truth, and ever since.

As someone else noted, there have been a deluge of (mind-numbing) "tv-fakery" videos coming out. Is it a coincidence that the 9/11 anniversary is around the corner? And now all of a sudden Barrett is promoting this stuff. What a coincidence.

Get ready for more BS about TV fakery folks.
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imgstacke



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must have a mental block on Reynolds, forgot he was on Fox too.

So we have, Barrett, Bowman, Fetzer, Reynolds. Anyone else???
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Nunyabiz



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stop putting Bowman in that category.
He is probably the most vocal supporter of 9/11 truth & a new investigation and having these bastards sent to prison for Treason than ANYONE else.

Why he lowered his standards to below ground level to appear on Faux Noise I have no idea. Don't know what Barrett is thinking either someone needs to contact these people and WTTFU.

Fetzer is either planted disinfo or just insane, either way he needs to be ignored.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its not a category - its a list of people who have been on Fox News speaking about 9/11.

I am being 100% objective.

I will put it out there as plain as day - if he is legitimate then he SHOULD have no probem distancing himself from Fetzer&Co - SPECIFICALLY Space Beams!

If he doesn't - well - then he runs along with Barrett.
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