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chrisc
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 Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:29 pm Post subject: Laura Knight Jadczyk's Cassiopaea Cult |
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An article by Laura Knight Jadczyk on disinfomation was mentioned yesterday and I have just done a bit of digging into the people behind the Signs of the Times site (Laura Knight Jadczyk's news site) and all the following stuff appears to have been written before they adopted Judy Wood's work and also from before they latched onto the "what hit the pentagon" issue.
The key person behind this cult is Laura Knight Jadczyk:
| Quote: | "in 1994, after the Shoemaker-Levy comet slammed into Jupiter, Laura Knight Martin began to channel the Cassiopaeans via a trumped up version of an Ouija Board with fellow board experimenter Fred Ireland. The board used the same type of communication techniques as the original Ouija.
In 1996 she divorced the father of her five children Lewis Martin claiming he was a reptilian zombie replacement sent to destroy her ability to evolve on her pathway with the Cassiopaeans." |
A guy called Vincent Bridges has put together a web site about them, cassiopaeacult.com, and has said
| Quote: | | "My name is Vincent Bridges and I am a former member of the Cassiopaea Cult. This is the story of how I got sucked in, was brainwashed and, once I was no longer useful, ended up being the scapegoat for the cult and its leaders." |
And also:
| Quote: | "The Cassiopaean message is very simple – Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid. The Cassiopaean view of reality is one in which government mind control plots go hand in hand with evil and selfish reptoid aliens from the future who rape and abduct at will among the complaisant population.
Laura was a disturbed child with a dysfunctional home life, such as a kidnapping by her stepfather at age four, suicide attempts and other self-destructive behaviour, who grew into a disturbed adult, plagued by hypochondria and often unsure exactly who fathered each of her five children, and who in the end divorced her first husband because she believed he was a reptoid zombie." |
Laura Knight Jadczyk has said on BBC Wales that "hyperdimensional beings" are running the planet as an experiment:
| Quote: | LKJ: ...we're one big experiment.
AW: Well, and, and who is, you know, perpetrating the experiment?
LKJ: Who perpetrates it? Well, I would suggest that it is denizens of this other reality that are referred to by the ancients as gods, and nowadays, of course they, they may refer to them as aliens. I don't think they're aliens. I don't think they come from other planets. I think they are hyperdimensional beings and I think that they've been here for many thousands of years, if not for all of human history. There are records of lights in the sky and strange beings that are similar to, you know, what are called aliens down through history. Jacques Vallee referred to it as a control system. Control system, hyperdimensional reality; it's pretty much the same thing. |
She thinks that there is no point in worrying about climate change, it's far too late for that and that we need to be worrying about being wiped out by a comet.
It appears to me that these people represent a classic case of a cult exploiting the disiorientation that the realisation that 9/11 was an inside job causes, to sucker people into giving money and their lives to a crazy cult. |
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casseia
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| Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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| BTW, because it was once the cause of some confusion, let me just say that my screen name has nothing to do with these people. |
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Scott N
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| Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Terrific. More cults. |
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chrisc
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:38 am Post subject: ShoutWire's Insidious Cult |
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| Danse wrote: | | Terrific. More cults. |
Yeah.. I know...
I just found this article about them: ShoutWire's Insidious Cult:
| Quote: | | You thought Scientology was nuts? Not compared to The Cassiopaean Experiment! |
| Quote: | ...the true head of the cult is Laura herself.
She is the one who writes the books, she’s the one who writes the blog, she’s the one whose name is plastered all over the articles. She’s the one that's contacted when it’s a cult-related matter. She has the final say on how the cult works. She is the one who asks the C’s the questions. She has her finger in EVERYTHING the cult does, from flash animations, to advertising, from the donations to the editorials. If you were to remove her from the cult it would not exist. Thus she is the tip of the pyramid.
In the center you have the actual members of the cult. The ones that believe all the teachings of Laura are true and also are the ones who defend everything she says (you will probably see them reply to my article as well). Most are quite intellectual and are able to write quite well as I have personally seen from their writings in their forums. Unfortunately this intelligence is wasted researching archaic ideas, myths, UFO’s, and other such off-the-wall nutty ideas.
The bottom of the pyramid is made up of the people who do not realize this is a cult. They follow the least biased articles and items the cult puts out. While they reject certain aspects of what they read, they accept other parts as factual – all without knowing they are reading cult propaganda.
So what exactly is The Cassiopaeans Experiment? I’ve said a lot about it without actually telling you in detail what they believe. It’s hard to get an exact list of what this group believes as their writings are long - very, very VERY long. But after reading quite a lot of their general material I think I know a little about their beliefs. This quote from their website is a perfect example that covers quite a few aspects of what they believe.
"We are you in the Future," they said. "We transmit 'through' the opening that is presented in the locator that you represent as Cassiopaea, due to the strong radio pulses aligned from Cassiopaea, which are due to a pulsar from a neutron star 300 light years behind it, as seen from your locator. This facilitates a clear channel transmission from 6th density to 3rd density."
http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/faq.htm
From this quote you can gather just how out of touch with reality the cult really is. They claim they are able to talk to ‘aliens’ light years away using an ouija board or interviewing people who are hypnotized. |
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chrisc
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:21 am Post subject: everything2 |
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I just found the following on everything2 from March 2001:
| Quote: | Cassiopeia is a constellation in which exists a particularly noisy supernova remnant.
An interesting aspect of this stellar artifact is its recent association with a fairly unique channeling experiment wherein '6th Density' beings calling themselves 'Cassiopaeans' transmit information via Ouija board to a group in Florida, U.S.A..
What makes this particular experiment different from the many hundreds of other channeling groups, (of varying levels of credibility), is the seeming clarity and unusual type of information transmitted.
Of the more fascinating assertions made by the 'Cassiopaeans' is that the Earth, as currently perceived and deemed normal by most of its inhabitants, is in fact a highly engineered environment maintained by various '4th Density' alien groups for the purpose of creating a food source. '4th Density' aliens, it is asserted, feed on the extreme psychic energy created when lower density beings, (humans), are tortured and killed or otherwise suffer various forms of stress, such as disease, romantic tension, orgasm, work related anxiety, etc.
According to the Cassiopaeans, Earth is due for a dramatic and catastrophic change with the arrival of a galactic phenomenon referred to as The Wave. A large scale alien invasion force is also predicted to arrive at this time. All of this is supposedly due to occur sometime around 2006, give or take 6 years. (Time, according to the channeled source, is an illusion and the speed at which it appears to move is highly susceptible to forces beyond human cognition.) |
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chrisc
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| Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:35 pm Post subject: Joe Quinn's 9/11 Articles |
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In 2005 Joe Quinn, who appears to be one of the cult's inner circle, wrote a couple of articles on prominent 911 activists:I don't know if Daniel Hopsicker or Michael Ruppert have written responses to this article but Jim Hoffman has made reference to the article about him.
I have yet to properly read these articles, or Joe Quinn's one on the Pentagon Strike site, Evidence That a Frozen Fish Didn't Impact the Pentagon - And Neither Did a Boeing 757 but I expect that they contain some significant disinformation and misinformation...
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dicktater
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| Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Danse wrote: | | Terrific. More cults. |
Yeah. So, who is not a cult? And, just who gets to decide? |
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Spleaf
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| Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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One of the elements I think a group needs to have to be called a cult is that the leaders need to be aware that they are decieving the membership. The membership may carry on the deception but they mostly remain decieved themselves.
I think a cult leader must be aware that they are decieving in order to use the tools of deception effectively.
I don't know where this leaves us in describing this leader if she is a devout believer herself, but if she employs deception techniques and sets up a cult 'system', then she is not a believer, she's a deciever.
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YT
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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| I find it fascinating that this is the group responsible for The Pentagon Strike video. |
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Keenan
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:53 pm Post subject: Re: Joe Quinn's 9/11 Articles |
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| chrisc wrote: | | In 2005 Joe Quinn, who appears to be one of the cult's inner circle... |
Chris, what is your evidece that the Signs of the Times (Laura Knight Jadczyk's news site) people are a cult, or that there exists a "cult's inner circle". Do you just make these statements up as you go along, or repeat other people's assertions you hear on the internet?
The use of the word "cult" is probably the most over-used slander word on the internet. It is primarily used to discredit a group or organizatgion that the slanderer dislikes or disagrees with their beliefs. But if every group that someone disagrees with were accused of being a cult, then that would probably make millions of "cults" on the internet.
It is incredibly irresponsible to utilize this type of slander when there is no basis. You first need to get clear about the definition of a cult. Then, you need to prove that the definition applies to SOTT, and that means not just latching onto what you hear about them on the internet, but doing your own research. If you actually do that, you will find that there is absolutely no bases for slanderoing SOTT as a cult.
The problem with this type of slander is that on an anonymous medium like the internet, anybody can throw out these accusations without evidence and then it becomes the burden of the accused to prove they are not, i.e., lots of people hear "so and so is a rapist", or "so and so runs a cult" and often run with it. Those involved in disinformation campaigns know very well which types of accusations are most likely to be effective at discrediting people because of the way others tend to accept it without proof. As far as the SOTT people, there definately HAS been an ongoing disinformation campaign being waged against them. They were getting so seriously harassed that they had to move out of the US right after 9/11 to France. |
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chrisc
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:31 pm Post subject: SOTT -- The Public Face of Laura's Cult |
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| Keenan wrote: | | there is absolutely no bases for slanderoing SOTT as a cult. |
Well, I have been looking at their stuff on-and-off for a year or more trying to work out what they are and where they are comming from and I have done quite a bit of research on them and I have no doubt whatsoever that they are a cult -- did you actually read the posts at the start of this thread? |
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chrisc
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:00 pm Post subject: Laura Knight Jadczyk: plagurising Judy Wood |
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Consider this article by Laura Knight Jadczyk, Ultra-terrestrials and 9-11 -- it plagurises Judy Wood (!) and goes on to say that most of the 9/11 truth movement "IS COINTELPRO", it's a long article, if you can't be arsed to read it all this is how it concludes:
| Laura Knight Jadczyk wrote: | One thing is clear: the UFOs themselves are not under the control of the military - or anybody else. But that the Consortium continues to debunk and cover it up - in the face of its violations of their own airspace - suggests to us again the analogy of arrogant and powerful Masters of Reality, aided and abetted by their military and intelligence organization servants who, all the while they are obeying the powerful overlords, which very well may include the 9/11 Attacks and war with Iraq, Iran, and God knows who else, seek to keep everything quiet while they try desperately to discover the secrets of power so as to arrogate it to themselves. And it seems evident that, in the present time, the game is afoot in the citadels of Power and Secrets.
We don't know - and cannot know at present - whether some super secret beam weapon was used to take down the Twin Towers on 9/11; but it is possible. And frankly, it is the one explanation that seems to cover all the anomalies. Bottom line is: Something is happening, there is a schedule, and the servants of the alien masters are pushing an agenda that few of us understand. They are trying to cement controls, to solidify their power base, because Something Wicked This Way Comes. |
... what more needs to be said?! |
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Keenan
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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| chrisc wrote: | | Keenan wrote: | | there is absolutely no bases for slanderoing SOTT as a cult. |
Well, I have been looking at their stuff on-and-off for a year or more trying to work out what they are and where they are comming from and I have done quite a bit of research on them and I have no doubt whatsoever that they are a cult -- did you actually read the posts at the start of this thread? |
Yes, I have read and have been reading SOTT articles for over a year, and I have not found one shred of evidence that they are a cult. I don't necessarily agree with everything they say, but I have not found them to be engaging in deception or to be operating as a "cult". They are a research group and they touch on a very broad array of topics and delve into the paranormal. However, even with their Cassiopaean Experiment in channeling, they approach it in a scientific way, not in a religious way. It is an *experiment* and Laura has re-iterated many times that no one should take any of the information that comes out of it as gospel, but rather it should be looked at as just more data to compare to other data gotten through other channels of information.
So, Chris, you agree that you are using the term "cult" to mean a group who you either dislike, or has claims/beliefs that you disagree with? Again, you are misusing the term, which was my point. If you have any evidence that you haven't shared yet that indicates they are a cult, I'd like to see it. In case you need to be clear about the definition, this may help:
http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=cult
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Cult
Noun
(n) cult (followers of an exclusive system of religious beliefs and practices)
(n) fad, craze, furor, furore, cult, rage (an interest followed with exaggerated zeal) "he always follows the latest fads"; "it was all the rage that season"
(n) cult (followers of an unorthodox, extremist, or false religion or sect who often live outside of conventional society under the direction of a charismatic leader)
(n) cult (a religion or sect that is generally considered to be unorthodox, extremist, or false) "it was a satanic cult"
(n) cult, cultus, religious cult (a system of religious beliefs and rituals) "devoted to the cultus of the Blessed Virgin"
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chrisc
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| Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:31 am Post subject: LOL |
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| Keenan wrote: | | with their Cassiopaean Experiment in channeling, they approach it in a scientific way, not in a religious way. |
You are kidding?
| Virellek wrote: | | They claim they are able to talk to ‘aliens’ light years away using an ouija board or interviewing people who are hypnotized. |
This is something you consider to be scientific -- using a ouija board to communicate with aliens?!
| Keenan wrote: | So, Chris, you agree that you are using the term "cult" to mean a group who you either dislike, or has claims/beliefs that you disagree with? Again, you are misusing the term, which was my point. If you have any evidence that you haven't shared yet that indicates they are a cult, I'd like to see it. In case you need to be clear about the definition, this may help:
http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=cult
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Cult
Noun
(n) cult (followers of an exclusive system of religious beliefs and practices)
(n) fad, craze, furor, furore, cult, rage (an interest followed with exaggerated zeal) "he always follows the latest fads"; "it was all the rage that season"
(n) cult (followers of an unorthodox, extremist, or false religion or sect who often live outside of conventional society under the direction of a charismatic leader)
(n) cult (a religion or sect that is generally considered to be unorthodox, extremist, or false) "it was a satanic cult"
(n) cult, cultus, religious cult (a system of religious beliefs and rituals) "devoted to the cultus of the Blessed Virgin"
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That seems to sum them up, they are clearly a cult. Are you a member? |
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chrisc
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| Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:26 am Post subject: How Cults Work |
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| Quote: | The modern definition of a mind control cult is any group which employs mind control and deceptive recruiting techniques. In other words cults trick people into joining and coerce them into staying. This is the definition that most people would agree with. Except the cults themselves of course!
A cult will have a slick well-rehearsed Public Relations front which hides what the group is really like. You will hear how they help the poor, or support research, or peace, or the environment. They will tell you how happy you will be in their group (and everyone in the cult will always seem very happy and enthusiastic, mainly because they have been told to act happy and will get in trouble if they don't). But you will not be told what life is really like in the group, nor what they really believe. These things will be introduced to you slowly, one at a time, so you will not notice the gradual change, until eventually you are practicing and believing things which at the start would have caused you to run a mile.
However cult leaders will tell you can only be "saved" (or can only be successful) in their organization alone. No other organization has the truth, all others miss the mark. So it is not the belief system that decides your future, but it the belief system AND your membership with that particular group.
The cult leaders need to make you believe that there is no where else you can go and still be saved, and if you ever leave the "one true church" then you are going to hell. This is a fear based control mechanism designed to keep you in the cult.
Those who control the information control the person. In a mind control cult any information from outside the cult is considered evil, especially if it is opposing the cult. Members are told not to read it or believe it. Only information supplied by the cult is true.
They tell you that they are not a cult.
This is a preemptive strike against the warnings from friends and family members which they know will come. In fact some cults go as far to tell you that Satan will try and dissuade you by sending family members and friends to tell you it is a cult. When this tactic is used then often a warped form of logic occurs in the recruits' mind, the "agents of Satan" do come and tell them that it is a cult. So since the group predicted that would happen, the group therefore must true! Basically if any group tells you that they are not a cult, or that some people call them a cult, then for goodness sake find out why!
# End of world pressure.
# Secret knowledge.
# Single charismatic leader.
# Say they are the only true group, or the best so why go anywhere else.
# Experiential rather than logical.
# Asking for money for the next level.
http://www.howcultswork.com/ |
Does this ring any bells? |
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