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[chrisc]

Kevin Barret's blog on 911 Blogger has a post on Psychopaths, Ponerology, & 9/11: Laura Knight-Jadczyk on Dynamic Duo Friday 2/15:

[JohnA]

[Winston Fahrenheit]

Sadly I have to agree with you re: Kevin Barrett. I'm not sure he would be too interested in 9/11 truth if it weren't for the fact that Muslims were (wrongly) blamed for it.

On one of his radio shows hosted a "Muslim scholar" who I think was a Pakistani. He claimed that the "Caliphate" in India was a good example of benevolent Muslim rule. You have to remember this is the same Muslim/Mughal Empire that drove the buddhists from Afghanistan, and forcibly converted thousands of Hindus to Islam. Pakistan and Bangladesh are two countries which were created as a result of people who "converted" to Islam during this time. The Mughuls were particularly barbaric, burning people on hot plates while pouring hot sand over them, sawing people in half, bricking up people alive, beheadings etc.

When challenged later, Barrett responded "I've read some main line sources about that [Mughul] empire and they seem to be largely benign".

I'm paraphrasing, but words to that effect. Well Dr Barrett, if I and everyone else had read the "main line sources" concerning 9/11 where would we be now?

During the same interview Barrett went on to implicitly (not directly) defend the Armenian genocide by the Turks, or at least justify/explain it away as a very ordinary event. He did this by failing to question his guest's ("Muslim scholar's") revisionism of that particular event.

Sadly I purchased two copies of Barrett's book, this was a *BIG* mistake, and I realize that this isn't a confessional, but I do regret that very much. I did send one copy to a fellow truther, but later told that person of my concerns, and for them to be aware of the situation.

Sadly I have also made bad judgements in having purchased the original nutty professor Fetzer's book. This I'm really quite embarrassed about.

[Col. Jenny Sparks]

[Col. Jenny Sparks]

[Winston Fahrenheit]

[Col. Jenny Sparks]

[JohnA]

its amazing what some artists can get away with. Shakespeare certainly cast a very dark light on the system of 'monorachy.' very few of his 'royal' characters were admirable.

But - he was adored for his craftsmanship - and therefore tolerated - and even 'protected' - (where, a man of lesser talents would have been punished severely for speaking his mind).

we see the same today - with characters on The Sorpranos romanticizing movies like Goodfellas and The Godfather. The TV show The Sopranos in turn was embraced - in fact LOVED - by the real goodfellas on the street.

art imitating reality - and reality imitating art.

i heard that Sinarta once had a few teeth knocked out for wise-mouthing a wise guy in a casino. he must have been keenly aware that the very same family that 'protected' him were also his biggest threat. but - the boys loved Sinatra. He turned them all into cultural icons with his silver tongue - as they turned him into an icon by breathing life into his persona of the lovable cool connected king-rat.

Gracchus: I think he knows what Rome is. Rome is the mob. Conjure magic for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar.

i think the powers that be long ago realized that it is impossible to silence the mob - the great ocean of unwashed subjects they seek to rule. Silence one man and the mob will provide 10 others to rise in his wake.

Unable to silence the masses - they instead allow for a symbiotic co-existence - tolerating those who create great art of their crimes - learning to love their silver-tongued historians who immortalize them by telling their dark romantic tale. They operate in plane sight. As do we. As they always have. As we always have.

[truthmover]

Wow! Kevin Barrett is really taking it on the chin. I think John really got past the political correctness that often constrains our discussion of dis/misinformation and just called it like he sees it. We really need more of that, assuming our statements are intended to "hold him accountable for his behavior" once again.

A couple of observations. Based on listening to a number of his radio programs. Not all of them of course.

First of all, after listening to Barrett talk on his radio show I felt that he wasn't very well educated about many of the things he was discussing, or maybe just in general. He spoke with poor grammar, seemed to avoid subtlety, and oversimplified many of the things being discussed.

I'm sure he knows a lot about Islam, his academic focus. But beyond that, why are we listening to him? Why does he have a radio show? What in the world does he know about anything?

Second, he seems to have a very lighthearted approach to the subject. Does he ever get serious about anything? 3000 people dead? Let's find something to laugh about. Its not like he's trying to offer a path to healing for the family members, and I doubt that he is qualified to. He just never seems to take any of this more seriously than a cooking show. Inflection and attitude matter. Respect for the gravity of the subject matters.

Third, he openly advocates the 'big tent approach'. I wouldn't hold it against someone for having taken that position in 2003 when we were few and far between. I listened to his show in which he spoke about that matter. I had made it very clear to him earlier in the day over on 911blogger why I thought his position was not justified. I assumed that he would have something decent to say for himself...Nothing! My argument was sound, and his was childish. The guest he had on to argue for his position was no better than he at making the case.

Basically he supports the inclusion of anyone who questions the official account of 9/11 regardless of their sanity or respect for others in the movement, such as the family members.

X!!!!

A small group of us, a number of those here, have been pushing up against the 'big tent approach' for a couple of years now. For a time we were chastised for creating discord in the movement. But now the problems this approach has created are becoming a lot more apparent to everyone, and our concerns have turned out in many cases to be very justified.

[victronix01]

Got this email today from someone named Craig Pruess, apparently an American composer living in Britain whose work has been nominated for a grammy award, so fairly famous. Someone should respond. I can forward a response from the STJ911 email if you send it to me, or forward his email on.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0699192/


Hi dear friends and colleagues,

I usually don't do this, but I am joining a fund-raising drive to help the defence fund for one of the most excellent truth research teams I have come across during the last ten years: Sign of the Times, including outstanding author, Laura Knight Jadczyk and her husband, published and respected physicist, Ark Jadczyk.

They have been shamelessly attacked on trumped up charges in the US courts and need everyone's help. Laura, Ark, Joe Quinn and their team are very humane, honest, tireless and courageous people, and I'm also lucky to have had personal interaction with them over this last year. They are simply highly motivated and dedicated educators, with the highest intention.

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Please donate what you can, and hopefully this ridiculous attack will be thrown out of court at the very first stages. Even just $5.00 or $20.00 will make a difference, as their readers are all around the world. For more info on the case, see:
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In truth, love and light,

Craig

PS I have no business connection with any of this! (just a sincere admirer
of their work!) =;-D

PPS also very very highly recommended is the ground-breaking book that Laura
and Ark single-handedly brought to the world's attention: "Political
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by Dr. Andrew M. Lobaczewski. Read it and get a valuable angle for specifics
on why the world is in its current crisis.....

"........ The first manuscript of this book went into the fire five minutes
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[chrisc]

They are also appealing for funds for their legal fight on places like Indymedia: http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2008/03/394823.html

[Laurel Canyon]

sent to hell

bugger!

[Laurel Canyon]

Pay particular attention to the last 50 posts or so

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x200546

[Laurel Canyon]

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message115499/pg151

[Laurel Canyon]

Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? Quote


are they reading each other´s material.


Bingo, Laura is an avid reader and writter. Look deeper into her background before committing yourself to her or her info. Some of the material will ring true, but beware of the messanger.

All is lessons and some of us will learn the hard way. Pull back the veil and see the truth.
It is a truth you must find on your own, no one can tell you - do a thorough search and understand the creature giving this info.

Her actions will speak louder than her words.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 992



Anonymous Coward, you are hitting the nail on the head. I am a cult survivor as well as a journalist. I left my nearly 8-year stint behind in 1995. I was so damned disillusioned by my experience I came close to killing myself.


I went through literally months of research before I wrote The Surviving the Fall ‘Laura Knight Jadczyk - Grand Master Channel of the Cassiopaean Apocalypse © 2004’ article. The proof is in the pudding and the records are there to find if anyone seriously wants to look. Laura used to need 151 Rum to channel - does she still? There has been MANY a witness to this. I talked to former group members in the USA, and now am talking to people in France who are loosing loved ones to this cult. Laura is telling these people to either shit, or get off the pot…leave unbelievers behind and come live in the compound. I have heard from mothers, wives, husbands, etc., terrified because their families are indeed doing just that. My honest opinion is eventually that “ascension” in Laura’s terms will mean death no matter the size of the group. All groups like this "have a cookie cutter messiah" complex

BTW, STF website is currently down. [link to www.survivingthefall.net] Another will soon take its place. All articles will be place on my MAAR site for reading until I get the other site up. I have been gravely ill and I am just getting a bit better so work is slow going. Anyway, my first post here. So hello!