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siddhartha
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 Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 10:36 pm Post subject: Barrett PR Guy: The Insane 9/11 Truthers of truthaction.org |
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A mass email from Rolf Lindgren, Kevin Barrett's campaign adviser and spokesman
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Subject: The Insane 9/11 Truthers of truthaction.org
Hey Guys and Gals;
Ever wonder why the 9/11 Truth movement gets a bad name?
Just check out the bat-shit insane attacks against Kevin Barrett and myself at:
http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1887&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165
The people at this site twist facts worse than the Bush administration, and when they don't have the facts to twist, they make them up. They even attack people who agree with them.
Who needs right-wing republican operatives when you've got www.truthaction.org?
If these people were in actual political power, you can bet we'd end up with purges reminiscent of Joseph Stalin or the French Revolution.
Sincerely,
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Col. Jenny Sparks
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| Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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Passing up all the obvious jabs, just fast forward to this link:
http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3550
and ask yourself what our Kev was doing during Kennebunkport and the wq2rx attacks?
We haven't forgotten--the attacks, the people who did nothing during the attacks, or the people pretending to be on our side but actually helping the bitches...
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chrisc
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| Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 10:46 pm Post subject: Re: Barrett PR Guy: The Insane 9/11 Truthers of truthaction. |
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| siddhartha wrote: | | Subject: The Insane 9/11 Truthers of truthaction.org |
Seems like a case of projection:
| Quote: | In psychology, psychological projection (or projection bias) is a defense mechanism in which one attributes one’s own unacceptable or unwanted thoughts or/and emotions to others.
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"A defense mechanism in which the individual attributes to other people impulses and traits that he himself has but cannot accept. It is especially likely to occur when the person lacks insight into his own impulses and traits."
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Dem Bruce Lee Stylez!
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| Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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If defending "no planes hit the WTC" and "space beam" junk is all good with Rolf and if he doesn’t find any of that “insane”, then no wonder he's surprised at people who criticise Barrett.
Rolf's the Muppet on the right, I guess the bearded guy in the back is his boss, I don't think Fetzer makes a good Kermit but Judy "Microwaves + Forks" Wood is a dead ringer for the one on the left:
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Arabesque
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| Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 11:25 pm Post subject: Re: Barrett PR Guy: The Insane 9/11 Truthers of truthaction. |
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| chrisc wrote: | | siddhartha wrote: | | Subject: The Insane 9/11 Truthers of truthaction.org |
Seems like a case of projection:
| Quote: | In psychology, psychological projection (or projection bias) is a defense mechanism in which one attributes one’s own unacceptable or unwanted thoughts or/and emotions to others.
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"A defense mechanism in which the individual attributes to other people impulses and traits that he himself has but cannot accept. It is especially likely to occur when the person lacks insight into his own impulses and traits."
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Ironically, his user number on 911blogger is 1984.
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YT
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| Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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truthmover
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 12:19 am Post subject: |
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That's just so totally apparently lame.
Another assertion that 'you're rubber and I'm glue' anyone? And in fact its really SO lame because I get the impression the guy writing it doesn't realize that he is sending traffic right to the facts that disprove his assertion. He even provides a link. That's maybe a bit too idiotic to be reasonable.
Why do I feel like maybe I'm being baited here? Maybe that lameness is too obvious to be unintentional. Why does it seem a bit like Barrett wants to make himself look bad?
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Nicholas
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 12:32 am Post subject: |
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Now he went and broke the rules of the PR shill, which he had followed so well while here (always repeat same points, don't react to points you can't win, avoid dialogue, always play calm and unruffled).
One has to wonder why he'd draw attention to this stuff? As a preemptive strategy? Because he thinks he did so well on that thread? Because he's an idiot?
The only shame is he didn't link to the first page in that. |
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YT
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Not to dwell on this dude's abject nonsense but he is the spokesman for a congressional candidate and I want to document his attacks on truthaction.org - this was forwarded to me this morning:
Subject: TruthAction.org Attempting to Sabotage Jesse Ventura Interview & the 9/11 Truth Movement
From: rolfusaugustusadolphus@yahoo.com
To: XXX@XXX.com
[the email consists solely of a screenshot of a forum post by victronix01:]
| Quote: | victronix01
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So Jesse Ventura is going to be on Fetzer's Dynamic Duo . . . for 2 hours. Someone should try to reach Ventura.
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JohnA
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 6:31 pm Post subject: Rolf |
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It appears Rolf was associated with an extreme right-wing individual by the name of Gene Chapman who ran for president:
| Quote: | “Posted 7/02/2006 04:57:00 PM by Gene
Ok, I have you (Rolf Lindgren), Robert Clarkson and Doug Kenline on my Libertarian Party Presidential Exploratory Committee. I need to know what paperwork is required to run, what kind of speaking schedule I'd need to have thru Nov. 2008, etc.” |
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What was Chapman’s platform? Here’s one of his posts:
| Quote: | Saturday, July 15, 2006
Posted 7/15/2006 11:00:00 AM by Gene
Hello darkness my old friend,
Commuinst aggresson's here again.
Tip my hat to those who'd be free,
How's the feel of wind and pee?
There's no love in the mind of Mr. Marx.
...of Mr. Marx.
It's sound of slavery.
The Lady tells us 'it takes a commie village.'
John Lennon imagines a day without God.
There's no virtue in the mind of Mr. Mark.
...of Mr. Marx.
It's the sound of slavery.
(A song)
Gene |
And – who does Gene associate with? Here is one of his class-action lawsuits:
| Quote: | August 11, 2006
American Christians
Re: Invitation to Join a "Slave Freedom/ Mark of The Beast Class Action Law Suit." |
Co-complainant, Mr. Fred Smart.
Source
small world. |
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Nicholas
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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WOOOOOW!
What a f-in' find! Amazing.
A first e-mail by Lindgren attacking truthaction.org can be passed off (if not very credibly) as an over-reaction to critique. It's bizarre to focus the attention of your potential voters on what your critics are saying in an alienating fashion ("batshit crazy").
How does this serve to win Wisconsin?!
A second mass e-mail by Lindgren attacking truthaction.org (for an offhand comment someone posted, not even an official position) can no longer be passed off. It's a campaign.
Barrett's campaign is not sending out mailings to promote "9/11 truth" or even to win votes for Barrett. It focuses instead on attacking truthaction (while striving to rehabilitate Fetzer). What could explain that? |
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Dem Bruce Lee Stylez!
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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| YT wrote: | Not to dwell on this dude's abject nonsense but he is the spokesman for a congressional candidate and I want to document his attacks on truthaction.org - this was forwarded to me this morning:
Subject: TruthAction.org Attempting to Sabotage Jesse Ventura Interview & the 9/11 Truth Movement
From: rolfusaugustusadolphus@yahoo.com
To: XXX@XXX.com
[the email consists solely of a screenshot of a forum post by victronix01:]
| Quote: | victronix01
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So Jesse Ventura is going to be on Fetzer's Dynamic Duo . . . for 2 hours. Someone should try to reach Ventura.
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YT man, Jesse Ventura knows Fetzer already from back when Fetzer wrote his book on Wellstone, with Jesse being the governor of Minnesota where Wellstone came from/died in etc. I remember he said to Alex Jones in an interview that Fetzer quote "thinks everything’s a conspiracy" and didn't hold much stock in him back then. It would be a PR nightmare if Jesse now gives Fetzer a second chance only for the media to smear him as a "no planes hit the WTC" "Space Beam" nutball by unwarranted association with Fetzer. F*CK this as*hole "spokesman" for Barrett who doesn’t understand WHY Fetzer is disliked so much and WHY Barrett receives the same criticism, the guy has no clue. |
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Col. Jenny Sparks
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | F*CK this as*hole "spokesman" for Barrett who doesn’t understand WHY Fetzer is disliked so much and WHY Barrett receives the same criticism, the guy has no clue. |
Ditto--except I think he knows WHY. Why he's being so obvious about it is what I want to know.
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Nicholas
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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We need to focus on the discovery that JohnA made, the key to the discussion in this thread - a rather tight chain of association linking Barrett and his guy to the no-planes group of Fred Smart et al. propagating the "W2QRX" mind-rape attacks on activists (also on fairly random, innocent targets).
| Quote: | It appears Rolf was associated with an extreme right-wing individual by the name of Gene Chapman who ran for president:
Quote:
“Posted 7/02/2006 04:57:00 PM by Gene
Ok, I have you (Rolf Lindgren), Robert Clarkson and Doug Kenline on my Libertarian Party Presidential Exploratory Committee. I need to know what paperwork is required to run, what kind of speaking schedule I'd need to have thru Nov. 2008, etc.”
Source
What was Chapman’s platform? Here’s one of his posts:
Quote:
Saturday, July 15, 2006
Posted 7/15/2006 11:00:00 AM by Gene
Hello darkness my old friend,
Commuinst aggresson's here again.
Tip my hat to those who'd be free,
How's the feel of wind and pee?
There's no love in the mind of Mr. Marx.
...of Mr. Marx.
It's sound of slavery.
The Lady tells us 'it takes a commie village.'
John Lennon imagines a day without God.
There's no virtue in the mind of Mr. Mark.
...of Mr. Marx.
It's the sound of slavery.
(A song)
Gene
And – who does Gene associate with? Here is one of his class-action lawsuits:
Quote:
August 11, 2006
American Christians
Re: Invitation to Join a "Slave Freedom/ Mark of The Beast Class Action Law Suit."
Co-complainant, Mr. Fred Smart.
Source
small world. |
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Nicholas
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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Also, I'd ask PLEASE that in general but especially on threads in which we are discussing how disinfo artists are attacking truthaction.org with trigger terms like "batshit crazy," that the posters PLEASE keep their posts sober and serious, avoid vulgarity, leave out the cutesy cartoons, etc. |
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