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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 6:57 am    Post subject: The Child Witches of Nigeria Reply with quote

This is the most fucked up thing I have ever seen. Coming from me, that means a lot.

It's enough to put you off religion forever.

From Joe Rogan's blog:

http://blog.joerogan.net/archives/559

Contains the video in question, a 50 minute documentary by the BBC. But as Rogan writes, "Don’t watch it if you don’t want to feel like shit."

I also came across a video of three adult "witches" being burned alive, but I won't torture you by posting the link.

Nigeria is the 12th largest oil producer in the world. Yet most people survive on a dollar a day. Oil contamination is causing massive environmental destruction and poverty. Over a million tons of oil have been spilled in the Niger Delta in the past 50 years.

But instead of blaming oil corporations like shell, or their corrupt government, many Nigerians are blaming their own children. For witchcraft.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly to think Organised Christianity isn't still causing untold mayhem around the world is dumb. I've known for sometime witchhunts still go on in Africa Crying or Very sad
From BBC imbedded in an unrelated story. Due to trade restrictions Nigeria is not aloud to refine its own fuel, it is all shipped to Europe etc. where they have to buy it back at a premium. Evil or Very Mad
Thats Globalisation, no wonder the Nigerians keep trying to take their oil back from scum like Royal Dutch Shell Mad
Reading your post has just got to me so I doubt I'll pluck up the courage to watch the film Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that was pretty fucking hardcore dude. that wasn't obama's village was it?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fuck.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow. i saw this vid last night, and i was like, meh, but i could not stop thinking about it today. the part that stuck in my mind the most is the dude who's just sitting there, on fire, rocking back and forth waiting to die with his flesh melting. i just can't fucking believe this shit. this is humbling. and these are children???? how old do you think they are? fuck.....
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From a few years ago...

Shell 'paid Nigerian military'


By Geoffrey Lean - Environment Correspondent

"RUTHLESS military operations"
were proposed specifically to help Shell establish stability in its oil business in Nigeria, a confidential memorandum obtained by the Independent on Sunday reveals. It recommends "wasting vocal individuals"

The internal state security memorandum, which is marked "restricted" 12 times, says that regular financial "inputs" from oil companies had been discussed. A British environmentalist said yesterday that the author of the document had told him that his men had been paid by Shell to protect installations.



Others confidential indicate that Shell asked for armed "assistance" against local demonstrators. And a leading Nigerian yesterday accused the company of "militarising commerce in his country".

Shell admits asking for help from armed police but strenuously denies paying the military. It says that there have been instances where the Nigerian authorities have "gone too far" and insists that it "does not wish to operate behind military shields".

But the disclosure of the documents will greatly increase the international row that has followed the execution of the writer and environmentalist Ken SaroWlwa and eight fellow Ogoni activists last month, and will step up pressure on the multinational company to leave- Nigeria. '


Ken Saro-Wiwa

The memorandum, headed "Law and Order in Ogoni etc" and dated 12 May 1994, is to the Military Administrator of Rivers State from the Chairman of Internal Security, Major Paul Okuntimo. It notes: "Shell operations still impossible unless ruthless military operations are undertaken for smooth economic activities to commence." Under the heading "recommendations Major Ok untimo lists "wasting operations during MOSOP and other gatherings making constant military presence justifiable". (MOSOP IS the Movement for the Survival of the Ogoni People, to which Ken Saro-Wiwa belonged.)

He goes on to recommend: "Wasting targets cutting across communities and leadership cadres especially vocal individuals and "wasting operations coupled with psychological tactics of displacement/wasting as noted above." Under the heading "financial implications (estimates/funding the memorandum lists "pressure on oil companies for prompt regular inputs as discussed". Major Okuntimo estimated that there would have lo be an "initial disbursement of 50 million naira as advanced allowances to officers and men, and for logistics to commence operations with immediate effect, as agreed".

Yesterday Nick Ashton-Jones, a British environmentalist, said that Major Okuntimo had told him and a Nigerian lawyer, Oronto Douglas, in June 1994 that he was carrying out his operations for Shell and that he was unhappy because the company had stopped paying his men. Mr Ashton-Jones, who says he was arrested by Okuntimo and beaten on his orders, said that the remark "had stuck in our minds because this was something that we had suspected".

He says that he has no real doubt that the company had been paying the major, but this remark is the only evidence he has for it.

Shell said yesterday that it was compelled by law to inform the authorities when there was a threat to oil installations and that : it only called in the police when its facilities or staff were at risk, It agreed there had been "instances where the response by the authorities has gone too far with tragic consequences", but added: "The level of response that a country's authorities carry out . . . has got to be a matter for those authorities." The company added: "We categorically refute that any form of input was ever provided to the military; neither would we do so if approached on such a matter."At the end of the day dialogue and cooperation and goodwill between people is the only way forward. "

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Breaking:

Shell in court over alleged role in Nigeria executions

Family of environmental activist Ken Saro-Wiwa, hanged by his country's rulers in 1995, take oil giant to court in New York



[Unfortunately, as the article explains, No multinational has ever been found guilty of human rights abuses. Capitalism is generally incompatible with justice.]

The Observer, Sunday 5 April 2009

Ken Saro-Wiwa swore that one day Shell, the oil giant, would answer for his death in a court of law. Next month, 14 years after his execution, the Nigerian environmental activist's dying wish is to be fulfilled.

In a New York federal court, Shell and one of its senior executives are to face charges that in the early 1990s in Nigeria they were complicit in human rights abuses, including summary execution and torture.

The Anglo-Dutch company, if found liable, could be forced to pay hundreds of millions of pounds in damages. No multinational has ever been found guilty of human rights abuses, although two previous cases saw major claims settled outside court.

Saro-Wiwa became famous as a campaigner on behalf of the Ogoni people, leading peaceful protests against the environmental damage caused by oil companies in the Niger Delta. There was worldwide condemnation when, along with eight other activists, he was hanged by the Nigerian military government in 1995 after being charged with incitement to murder after the death of four Ogoni elders. Many of the prosecution witnesses later admitted that they had been bribed to give evidence against Saro-Wiwa, who was a respected television writer and businessman.

Lawyers in New York will allege that Shell actively subsidised a campaign of terror by security forces in the Niger Delta and attempted to influence the trial that led to Saro-Wiwa's execution. The lawsuit alleges that the company attempted to bribe two witnesses in his trial to testify against him. Members of Saro-Wiwa's family will take the stand for the first time to give their version of events, among them his brother Owens, who will allege that Brian Anderson, managing director of Shell's Nigerian subsidiary, told him: "It would not be impossible to get charges dropped if protests were called off." Anderson is fighting the action.

Witnesses who were shot by military police in the Niger Delta principally to protect the building of Shell's oil pipeline will allege that Shell, by paying the police to protect its interests, was complicit in acts of violence.

Speaking to the Observer from Abuja, Nigeria, Saro-Wiwa's son, Ken Wiwa, said: "For 14 years we have lived with the memory of a father, an uncle, a brother, a son executed for a crime he didn't commit. We have daily reminders. It's painful to live with a monstrous injustice. To wake up one day to finally get our day in court is tremendously satisfying.

"After the injustice of the original crime against my father, having to watch legal arguments [by Shell] using the highest-paid lawyers in the world is sickening. You can't describe how painful that is to go through.

"Part of the reason for the original protest was the way Shell behaved. Ogoni people made their living farming and fishing, but Shell was using open waste pits and oil pipelines criss-crossed the land. These polluting activities were put on top of a delicate ecosystem. It destroyed people's ability to sustain themselves. That's the impact of Shell and, when people tried to protest, they were brutally repressed."

In a statement, Shell this weekend described the executions of the Ogoni 9 as "tragic events carried out by the Nigerian government in power at the time".

"Shell attempted to persuade that government to grant clemency; to our deep regret, that appeal - and the appeals of many others - went unheard, and we were shocked and saddened when we heard the news. Shell in no way encouraged or advocated any act of violence against them or their fellow Ogonis. We believe that the evidence will show clearly that Shell was not responsible for these tragic events. The allegations made in the complaints against Royal Dutch/Shell concerning the 1995 executions of Ken Saro-Wiwa and his eight fellow Ogonis are false and without merit."

US lawyers have finally won permission to bring the case to court under the alien tort statute, which gives non-US citizens the right to file claims in American courts for international human rights violations. The court case had been set for 27 April, though last night the date was moved to 26 May.

Today the oil-producing Niger Delta region is riven by intense violence and corruption. The Ogoni 9 trial is seen as a way of coming to terms with the past and building a non-violent future.

"We need to know the truth," said Ken Wiwa last night. "We need to have people account for their role in the executions and the displacement of the Ogoni people, many of whom feel traumatised. It will be a relief. It will enable people to face the future. That's the most important thing. Let's account for the past, so we can move forward."

Lawyers representing Saro-Wiwa's family have not sought specific damages should Shell be found liable, but legal experts say the oil giant could face fines running into hundreds of millions of pounds.

Jenny Green, a senior lawyer at the New York-based Center for Constitutional Rights, who has played a pivotal role in ensuring the Saro-Wiwa case made it to court, said: "Mosop [the Movement for the Survival of the Ogoni People] was formed to stand up to multinationals and the dictatorship that acted hand-in-hand. This is a significant moment, because it says you can't act with impunity."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/apr/05/shell-saro-wiwa-execution-charges[/img]
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone here post in the JREF forum?

If so, please post about the witchhunts in some relevant sub-forum there, and please suggest that some skeptics' organization do something to raise public awareness on this issue and perhaps raise some money to help victims.

Because the organized skeptical community opposes superstition, and because witchhunts are one of the most harmful forms of superstition imaginable, hopefully this topic would be right up their alley, and it would be something they could work on that would be genuinely beneficial.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Because the organized skeptical community opposes superstition, and because witchhunts are one of the most harmful forms of superstition imaginable, hopefully this topic would be right up their alley, and it would be something they could work on that would be genuinely beneficial.


Have you read Sylvia Federici's work "Caliban and the Witch"?

She suggests that superstition plays a secondary role in "witch hunts", which owe more to (very logical) social and economic factors inherent to capitalism. In fact she attributes the original "witch hunt" to the mandates of "primitive accumulation". This isn't to say that superstition and ignorance were not essential to the process, but the demonization of women played an important role in eliminating the people (namely women) who were at the forefront of opposition to privatization of the commons. It's a complicated a argument that I can't sum up in a few words, but Peter Linebaugh wrote a brilliant summary which you can read here:

http://www.kersplebedeb.com/mystuff/books/reviews/caliban_linebaugh.htm

You can see the same processes at work in Nigeria -- the negative influence of the Church combined with cut-throat capitalism and scapegoating of women.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Danse wrote:
Have you read Sylvia Federici's work "Caliban and the Witch"?


No, I haven't. Thanks for calling my attention to it.

Danse wrote:
She suggests that superstition plays a secondary role in "witch hunts", which owe more to (very logical) social and economic factors inherent to capitalism. In fact she attributes the original "witch hunt" to the mandates of "primitive accumulation". This isn't to say that superstition and ignorance were not essential to the process, but the demonization of women played an important role in eliminating the people (namely women) who were at the forefront of opposition to privatization of the commons. It's a complicated a argument that I can't sum up in a few words, but Peter Linebaugh wrote a brilliant summary which you can read here:

http://www.kersplebedeb.com/mystuff/books/reviews/caliban_linebaugh.htm


Again, thanks for the info.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weird, link is suddenly dead. Here's another for Linebaugh's must-read piece -- which I think is vitally important to understand the issue of torture historically. Not just for Witch-hunts but for "insurgent" hunts" and "communist" hunts and "Injun hunts" and so on and so forth. Keep in mind that this work predates Naomi Klein's "Shock Doctrine", and encompasses a much broader time period.

http://www.counterpunch.org/linebaugh11272004.html


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've posted links to this essay -- and more importantly the book on which it is based -- at least a dozen times, but no one has ever bothered to respond.

I can only assume that readers did not find Linebaugh's opening paragraphs compelling enough to read the whole discourse.

It's worth reading. Trust me on this.

Here are a few selections from his essay, which hopefully will lead to some people reading the book.

As painful as it is to acknowledge, torture is not a function of mere superstition, or the CIA, or the Federal Reserve, or the "Jews", or good intentions gone awry; torture is functional in the sense that it is an instrument of terrorism, and is therefore useful to states and other powerful entities.

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Why does torture accompany economic development or primitive accumulation? What is the relationship between the violation of Chapter 39 and the promulgation of Order 39? This is another way of expressing the relation between the tortures conducted at the Abu Ghraib prison and the project of neo-liberal economic policy. Why is the violation fundamental legal principle, the integrity of the body, necessary to the policy of oil extraction, modernization, and free marketing?


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The birch, the whipping post, the strappado, the scold's bridle, the branks, the muzzle, the gag, the ducking stool, the cackstool, the branding iron, the finger pillory, treadmill the neck and wrist pillory, the thew, the kidcote, thumbscrews, gibbet, are some of the torture instruments of Renaissance England for disciplining women.

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There is a tension in English history between the practice of torture and its prohibition. Legal critics in the middle ages, such as the fishmonger Andrew Horn, recalled that Alfred the Great "hanged Osketil [a judge], for that he judged Culling to death [who] was taken and tortured until he confessed a mortal sin, and this he did to be quit of further torture; and Osketil judged him to death on his confession made to the coroner." Centuries later Coke said, "there is no law to warrant tortures in this land, nor can they be justified by any prescription ," and Blackstone called the rack "an engine of state, not of law" Now, it must be said, as we learn from Professor Langbein (an authority which the Harvard torture booster, Alan Dershowitz, depends on) that Edward Coke, like Francis Bacon or Isaac Newton, himself participated in the torture of suspects. Evidence that Blackstone did as well has yet to come to light, and though we doubt that it shall, would we be so surprised if it did?


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The unspoken assumption is that prisoners are not persons. Justice Brennan in Furman v. Georgia (1972) signalled the significance of the 8th amendment as forbidding the treatment of "members of the human race as nonhumans." A category is created of the stigmatized, the dehumanized, and, as it is essential to add, the demonized. The category of the nonhuman in American history begins as the category of the slave, Caliban. But free-born Caliban, as we remember from The Tempest, had a mother, Sycorax. She was herbalist, a shaman, she was African born in Algiers, she had powers over trees, the birds, the weather, "one so strong that could control the moon, make flows and ebbs." We must, therefore, lengthen the beginnings of the torture regime beyond the slave regime to include, so to speak, its parent, the degradation of women, as one of the deep structures of capitalism.


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Nothing can so clearly help us understand the torture and the project of neo-liberalism as this, for Federici describes a foundational process creating the structural conditions for the existence of capitalism. This is the fundamental relationship of capitalist accumulation, or (as it is called in decades of technical literature) 'primitive accumulation.' This mystery perplexed (however coyly) Adam Smith. It was the 'original sin' of the political economists, and for Karl Marx it was written in "letters of blood and fire."


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The birth of the proletariat required war against women. This was the witch-hunt when tens of thousands of women in Europe were tortured and burnt at the stake, in massive state-sponsored terror against the European peasantry destroying communal relations and communal property. It was coeval with the enclosures of the land, the destruction of popular culture, the genocide in the New World, and the start of the African slave trade. The 16th century price inflation, the 17th century crisis, the centralized state, the transition to capitalism, the Age of Reason ­ come to life, if the blood-curdling cries at the stake, the crackling of kindling as the faggots suddenly catch fire, the clanging of iron shackles of the imprisoned vagabonds, or the spine-shivering abstractions of the mechanical philosophies can indeed be called "life."

Federici explains why the age of plunder required the patriarchy of the wage. Gender became not only a biological condition or cultural reality but a determining specification of class relations. The devaluation of reproductive labor inevitably devalues its product, labor power. The burning of the witches and the vivisection of the body enforced a new sexual pact, the conjuratio of unpaid labor. It was essential to capitalist work-discipline. This is what Marx called the alienation of the body, what Max Weber called the reform of the body, what Norman O. Brown called the repression of the body, and what Foucault calls the discipline of the body. Yet, these social theorists of deep modernization overlooked the witch-hunt!

The historic demonization of women is on the face of page after page in profuse and magnificent illustration. The book contains many and beautiful illustrations, such as Vegetable Man, the Land of Cockaigne, the Fountain of Youth, and the Witch's Herbary. It contains powerful images, many are woodcuts (one of the first uses of the printing press). One shows witches conjuring a rain shower, others show a 15th century brothel, Dürer's depiction of the expulsion of Adam and Eve from the common land, Jacques Callot's Horrors of War, Dürer's woman's bath-house, The Parliament of Women, and the Anabaptist's communistic sharing of goods.
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