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This topic was split off from A Note on 'The Obama Deception' - admin.

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More global-warming denying, pseudo-scientists that need to be locked up. Imagine, these maniacal dangers to society use synchronized chaos and historical records to model the weather. How the fuck can these even walk the streets of Madison without being stoned?

UW-Milwaukee Study Could Realign Climate Change Theory
Scientists Claim Earth Is Undergoing Natural Climate Shift

POSTED: 3:18 pm CDT March 15, 2009
UPDATED: 11:50 am CDT March 16, 2009

http://www.wisn.com/weather/18935841/detail.html

MILWAUKEE -- The bitter cold and record snowfalls from two wicked winters are causing people to ask if the global climate is truly changing.

The climate is known to be variable and, in recent years, more scientific thought and research has been focused on the global temperature and how humanity might be influencing it.

However, a new study by the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee could turn the climate change world upside down.

Scientists at the university used a math application known as synchronized chaos and applied it to climate data taken over the past 100 years.

"Imagine that you have four synchronized swimmers and they are not holding hands and they do their program and everything is fine; now, if they begin to hold hands and hold hands tightly, most likely a slight error will destroy the synchronization. Well, we applied the same analogy to climate," researcher Dr. Anastasios Tsonis said.

Scientists said that the air and ocean systems of the earth are now showing signs of synchronizing with each other.

Eventually, the systems begin to couple and the synchronous state is destroyed, leading to a climate shift.

"In climate, when this happens, the climate state changes. You go from a cooling regime to a warming regime or a warming regime to a cooling regime. This way we were able to explain all the fluctuations in the global temperature trend in the past century," Tsonis said. "The research team has found the warming trend of the past 30 years has stopped and in fact global temperatures have leveled off since 2001."

The most recent climate shift probably occurred at about the year 2000.

Now the question is how has warming slowed and how much influence does human activity have?

"But if we don't understand what is natural, I don't think we can say much about what the humans are doing. So our interest is to understand -- first the natural variability of climate -- and then take it from there. So we were very excited when we realized a lot of changes in the past century from warmer to cooler and then back to warmer were all natural," Tsonis said.

Tsonis said he thinks the current trend of steady or even cooling earth temps may last a couple of decades or until the next climate shift occurs.

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Sorry,but , we are sold out of magbificent bridges.

Taxes must rise to pay for climate change, MPs warn

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/4995250/Taxes-must-rise-to-pay-for-climate-change-MPs-warn.html

[MPs, definition: Mindless Perverts, Mad Potentates]

Taxes will need to rise to pay for the green revolution which is necessary to save the planet from global warming, MPs warn today.


By Rosa Prince, Political Correspondent
Last Updated: 3:45PM GMT 16 Mar 2009
Tim Yeo, whose Environmental Audit Committee warned about the need for tax increases Photo: Heathcliff O'Malley

In a report on the impact of the recession on attempts to transform the UK into a low-carbon economy, an influential Commons committee reveals that levels of green taxes are now falling while overall tax revenues increase.

And the MPs on the Environmental Audit Committee warn that without tax rises or radical cuts in public spending elsewhere, the Government will not be able to afford to continue the "green stimulus package" announced in the pre-Budget report in November.

Last week, the world's leading climate change scientists, gathered in Copenhagen, issued a desperate plea to politicians to take urgent action on climate change or risk catastrophic global warming.

But in their report, the MPs expose the timidity of the Government's response to the crisis, revealing that the £535 million package for low carbon measures announced in the PBR was made up of money brought forward from future budgets.

That means that the Government will either have to cut spending or raise taxes to pay for future measures to "green" the economic recovery.

Tim Yeo, chairman of the committee, said: "The Treasury has announced very little new money for green investments.

"Yet meeting our climate change targets will require a step-change in funding for the low carbon energy sector, especially when the financial crisis has led to a shortage of capital."

In their report, the MPs say that the Treasury's take from green taxes has fallen slightly since 1998, while overall revenues have risen by 30 per cent.

They call on Alistair Darling, the Chancellor, to announce more environmentally-friendly projects in the upcoming Budget, adding that investment in low carbon industries could lead to job creation. They also want guaranteed financing for green projects through the current credit squeeze.

Banks in receipt of public funds could be forced to invest in low-carbon firms, and the committee called on Lord Mandelson, the Business Secretary, to be explicit about the demands placed on car manufacturers to build greener models before being granted government aid.

Mr Yeo added: "Measures designed to pull the economy out of recession provide an invaluable opportunity for the Treasury to drive the kind of change required to build a sustainable modern economy.

"The upcoming Budget is a real test of the Government's commitment to its own climate change policies. Yet the measures in the Pre-Budget Report show the Treasury lacks the consistency and boldness of purpose required.

"There is clear evidence that investment in low carbon industries will lead to net job creation. The Budget should contain a much bigger and more coherent package of green fiscal stimulus."

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhzrOAtU2C8
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Wednesday, March 18, 2009

Obama climate plan could cost $2 trillion
Tom LoBianco (Contact)

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/mar/18/obama-climate-plan-could-cost-2-trillion/print/

UPDATED:

President Obama's climate plan could cost industry close to $2 trillion, nearly three times the White House's initial estimate of the so-called "cap-and-trade" legislation, according to Senate staffers who were briefed by the White House.

[This is no surprise to me. I always triple initial government estimates of costs where they benefit from the lowest possible figure to get a better idea of what will probably wind up being true costs. But, here's the real kicker. The costs will not be borne by industry, as they would like us to believe. All such costs are eventually passed on to the consumer, just as all taxes other are.]

A top economic aide to Mr. Obama told a group of Senate staffers last month that the president's climate-change plan would surely raise more than the $646 billion over eight years the White House had estimated publicly, according to multiple a number of staffers who attended the briefing Feb. 26.

"We all looked at each other like, 'Wow, that's a big number,'" said a top Republican staffer who attended the meeting along with between 50 and 60 other Democratic and Republican congressional aides.

The plan seeks to reduce pollution by setting a limit on carbon emissions and allowing businesses and groups to buy allowances, although exact details have not been released.

At the meeting, Jason Furman, a top Obama staffer, estimated that the president's cap-and-trade program could cost up to three times as much as the administration's early estimate of $646 billion over eight years. A study of an earlier cap-and-trade bill co-sponsored by Mr. Obama when he was a senator estimated the cost could top $366 billion a year by 2015.

A White House official did not confirm the large estimate, saying only that Obama aides previously had noted that the $646 billion estimate was "conservative."

"Any revenues in excess of the estimate would be rebated to vulnerable consumers, communities and businesses," the official said.

[HORSE-FUCKING-SHIT!!!! Once they take it, it's gone. The public treasury has long since been sucked dry. Now they are after any remaining private wealth. If (and that's a big if) they ever give any back, it is a measly portion and has more strings attached than a loom at a Fruit of the Loom plant in Mexico.]

The Obama administration has proposed using the majority of the money generated from a cap-and-trade plan to pay for its middle-class tax cuts, while using about $120 billion to invest in renewable-energy projects.

[What bizarre words: "pay for its middle-class tax cuts?" In other words, using the majority of the money generated to maintain the level of federal expenditures which they refuse to reduce.]

Mr. Obama and congressional Democratic leaders have made passing a climate-change bill a top priority. But Republican leaders and moderate to conservative Democrats have cautioned against levying increased fees on businesses while the economy is still faltering.

House Republican leaders blasted the costs in the new estimate.

"The last thing we need is a massive tax increase in a recession, but reportedly that's what the White House is offering: up to $1.9 trillion in tax hikes on every single American who drives a car, turns on a light switch or buys a product made in the United States," said Michael Steel, a spokesman for House Minority Leader John A. Boehner. "And since this energy tax won't affect manufacturers in Mexico, India and China, it will do nothing but drive American jobs overseas."

[It's worse than that. Not one dime stolen by the feds will do anything mitigate so-called manmade global warming, er I mean climate C.h.A.N.G.E. It's all about sucking revenue from every open orifice they can find. Nothing more, well except debt slavery in perpetuity, of course. ]

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I think we should keep two things seperated: 1) the existence of a problem and 2) "solutions" that abuse/exploit the fear. The 'cap-and-trade' agenda belongs to 2) and should be questioned.

The scientists who predicted the danger of human made climate change (among other (!) ecological topics) went through a long process of being ridiculed ever since the 1960's. Eventually grassroot movements in europe worked together with these scientists and risked their lives as activists to raise awareness.

Allthough such movements also existed in the USA, the propaganda machine somehow managed to sell the idea that ANY form of green politics was anti-american. And the US electoral system kept third parties like the green party from ever having a chance to discuss their agenda.

So what we have now in the US is a pretty distorted "either/or" situation. Because our electoral system ruled out a priori the possibility of Ralf Nader becoming VICE president and thus representing these topics, we're left with CNN and conservatives picking up and abusing these topics.

Something that is now happening in europe too, with the big difference that green partys and left wing partys are still either part of the parlements or even part of the legistlation.

We kind of skipped the 'real thing', and are thus left with pseudo-alternatives.

divide et conquera

[funhouse1970]

Coldest winter in recent memory. Near zero sunspot activity. And still folks can't put 2 +2 together. Global Warming is a Globalists' Hoax. Club of Rome called it for us back in the early 90's. Mankind is the Enemy!!!! Let's tax everybody for farting!

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Climategate: the final nail in the coffin of 'Anthropogenic Global Warming'?
http://www.globalclimatescam.com/2009/11/climategate-the-final-nail-in-the-coffin-of-anthropogenic-global-warming/
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http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/23/climategate-the-very-ugly-side-of-climate-science/

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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125883405294859215.html

Climate Emails Stoke Debate (excerpts)


* NOVEMBER 23, 2009

Climate Emails Stoke Debate
Scientists' Leaked Correspondence Illustrates Bitter Feud over Global Warming


By KEITH JOHNSON

The scientific community is buzzing over thousands of emails and documents -- posted on the Internet last week after being hacked from a prominent climate-change research center -- that some say raise ethical questions about a group of scientists who contend humans are responsible for global warming.

The correspondence between dozens of climate-change researchers, including many in the U.S., illustrates bitter feelings among those who believe human activities cause global warming toward rivals who argue that the link between humans and climate change remains uncertain.

Some emails also refer to efforts by scientists who believe man is causing global warming to exclude contrary views from important scientific publications.

"This is horrible," said Pat Michaels, a climate scientist at the Cato Institute in Washington who is mentioned negatively in the emails. "This is what everyone feared. Over the years, it has become increasingly difficult for anyone who does not view global warming as an end-of-the-world issue to publish papers. This isn't questionable practice, this is unethical."

In all, more than 1,000 emails and more than 2,000 other documents were stolen Thursday from the Climate Research Unit at East Anglia University in the U.K. The identity of the hackers isn't certain, but the files were posted on a Russian file-sharing server late Thursday, and university officials confirmed over the weekend that their computer had been attacked and said the documents appeared to be genuine.

"The selective publication of some stolen emails and other papers taken out of context is mischievous and cannot be considered a genuine attempt to engage with this issue in a responsible way," the university said.

Most climate scientists today argue that the earth's temperature is rising, and nearly all of those agree that human activity is likely to be a prime or at least significant cause. But a vocal minority dispute one or both of those views.

A partial review of the hacked material suggests there was an effort at East Anglia, which houses an important center of global climate research, to shut out dissenters and their points of view.

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Here's an extreme example of AGW propaganda
http://www.breitbart.tv/new-climate-change-shock-ad-features-polar-bears-falling-to-bloody-deaths/
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