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Pentagon Attack Cab Driver Lloyde England's Virtual Confession
http://www.911blogger.com/node/20035

I'm surprised and disappointed that 911blogger.com would feature this headline and the accompanying video without any kind of critical editorial comment whatsoever. I had thought the site to be one of the few 9/11 news sites with somewhat higher standards than average - certainly not one that would blithely publish such an accusation against a victim of the Pentagon attack who almost lost his life that day.

It's a display that is not only painfully embarrassing but downright nauseating:

The highly ambiguous and craftily edited words of a not-so-lucid elderly cab driver - recorded on hidden camera - are presented as a "virtual confession" of complicity in the 9/11 false flag attack. This material is then seized upon by zealous believers who herald it as a smoking gun and imply that anyone challenging it is part of a disinformation campaign against the so-called Citizens Investigation Team.

I'm not sure why this is allowed to take place at 911Blogger but I hope the people that run the site quickly regain their senses, reclaim their standards and refuse to assist shady operations like CIT in their attempts to drag the truth movement into the gutter and down the drain.

[truthmover]

Just look at the evidence. The facts speak for themselves. They have no context. You can't analyze them. They can't be influenced or misrepresented. They talk and you listen.

We're talking about the witnesses. They speak for themselves. They have no context. You can't analyze them. They can't be influenced or misrepresented. They talk and you listen.

And the people who started CIT, they speak for themselves. They have no context. You can't analyze them. They can't be influenced or misrepresented. They talk and you listen.

Kind of like God.

CIT offers the 9/11 truth movement NO benefit. NONE!! And they do a great deal of damage, naively or not. And that's not just one person's opinion. I'd assume that opinion is shared openly or privately by most of the older, more educated, more experienced people in the movement. Those who have spoken out are not people we suspect of otherwise trying to undermine the movement in any way.

So if you happen to be a fan or supportive of their efforts, and refuse to question their results, understand that you are ignoring the opinions of a lot of knowledgable and committed people. People who don't have some kind of knee jerk bias against what they present. People who have payed attention and come away with experience that is mutually confirmed.

CIT is dishonest, unscientific, and downright shady. In my opinion, including them in any way is a bow to the big tent strategy, a race to the bottom, and hurts the movement.

If you disagree, please try to figure out what possible motivation beyond promoting fact and good strategy someone like me might have to be saying these things. I'm really not trying to waste my time or yours.
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[President Ford]

This is very disappointing. Maybe the folks at 911blogger need a vacation.

It is clear that CIT's goal is to be divisive, not investigate 9/11. The Pentagon-Honey-Pot-Conspiracy-Porn PsyOp can be easily resolved by the Pentagon releasing the many tapes it has of the event. Period. If all of this energy was focused on that, instead of these carefully-crafted dead ends that are managed by obnoxious, fake truthers with obviously too much time on their hands, then perhaps getting at some real evidence could be a reality.

Why is 911blogger playing directly into their hands?

[Arcterus]

Unfortunately, 911blogger has little in the way of standards. It allows a lot of hoax-related posts onto it's website. Think of it like a Wiki-blog.

Of course, as always, CIT had it wrong again.

http://frustratingfraud.blogspot.com/2008/11/see-saw-analogy-moot.html

[Scott N]

[victronix01]

[truthmover]

Danse said:

[victronix01]

[madtruth]

wow,I am stunned. I didn't know there was this kind of hatred and mistrust toward CIT. Lloyd didn't have to accept their requests for interviews, especially the 2nd time. He then welcomed CIT into his home, they didn't bully their way into his house.

You tell me you believe that a 250 lb pole was lifted out of that car by an elderly man and a mysteriously silent passerby? You tell me the FDR info that P4911truth is a fraud that proved the impossibility of a plane hitting the light poles?

You're telling me all those CIT on location eye witnesses including Pentagon sargeant cops are lying?

Who cares about their methods? When they set out to do this investigating by flying from California to Virginia/D.C. out of their own pockets, do you think they had some kind of money making agenda on their hands? I doubt their even recouping all of what they spent.

I don't understand the hatred? Maybe someone can explain it more clearly to me?

Thanks!

[truthmover]

[victronix01]

[madtruth]

ok, hatred was the wrong word. I guess, disagreement with. I am not associated with CIT. I just learned about this disagreement with their investigations from this forum itself. I already knew about some of their detractors on another forum, but their are always people who don't agree. There are some that don't like what Steve Jones is doing.Or Alex Jones.Or Loose Change guys.Or A&E for truth's Mr. Gage, and so on and so on.
I've watched all their films in full and several times. I don't see too much to debunk. I have been critical of the CIT angle on Shanksville a bit..such as one of their female witnesses seemingly to be acting in one of her interviews.So,I am not in love with all angles of the CIT stuff, but on the most part, they seem to of done an excellent job in my eyes.

[madtruth]

I am just a firefighter who looks at all aspects of the 9/11 issue. CIT is just another one of many. Seems like most of the comments on 911blogger favors CIT's findings.

http://www.911blogger.com/node/20035

[Col. Jenny Sparks]

[Col. Jenny Sparks]