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Rob Balsamo
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 Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:20 pm Post subject: Rob Balsamo responds to concerns about John Lear |
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Edit - NOTICE - To reduce confusion, This thread was split from here...
http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3528
Topic of this thread states.. and I quote...
| Quote: | | Pilot For 9/11 Truth: "No Planes on 9/11" |
Where exactly is that quoted on our website?
I notice no one has taken the time to source such a quote... but here is the link to the home page, perhaps you can find such a quote from within?
http://pilotsfor911truth.org
Let us know when you anonymous indivduals actually have source for your claims...
Until then, you may want to listen to todays Kevin Barrett's show as we address many of the topics here...
http://noliesradio.org/archives/3224
(be sure to stop the WMP on the right or you may be confused with double streams..  )
I rarely join a forum which cant break double digits of members logged on at any given time (let alone guests.. .this place is just sad for traffic).. but today i make an exception.. im a bit bored.
Please be sure to review the radio show linked above before replying as many regular members to this forum have already buried themselves deep enough...
For those interested in what our current work involves...
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index.php?showtopic=17681
edit to add: Anyone willing to discuss/debate our work, feel free to email us with contact information and expect the recorder rolling when called.
Have a nice day!
Rob
(Stefan, Keep up the good work!)
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Rob Balsamo
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| Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:56 pm Post subject: Re: Pilot For 9/11 Truth: "No Planes on 9/11" |
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| siddhartha wrote: | | John Lear is a member of Pilots for 9/11 Truth. |
True, but unsourced.
| Quote: | | He has an incredibly impressive record as a pilot... |
True, but unsourced.
| Quote: | | and CIA operative. |
False, and unsourced.
| Quote: | | He claims that there are cities and sunny meadows on the far side of the moon. And underground alien bases on Earth. And no planes on 9/11. |
False and unsourced.
("Far side" of the moon doesnt receive sunlight, John makes no claim of "Sunny" on the "far side")
| Quote: | | Rob Balsamo seems to think that only a government apologist would possibly question Lear's credibility. |
False and unsourced.
| Quote: | | What do you think? |
I think you need to source your claims. Perhaps put your name to them?
Nah... thats asking too much.
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truthmover
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| Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Pilot For 9/11 Truth: "No Planes on 9/11" |
| Quote: | | Where exactly is that quoted on our website? |
LOL!!! |
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Rob Balsamo
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Col. Jenny Sparks
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| Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Col. Jenny Sparks wrote: | | siddhartha wrote: | | P45 wrote: | | Quote: | | "Pilots for Truth" IS a no planes organization |
Can you quantify that statement? Just to remove any ambiguity. |
a) Their most famous and most experienced member (a "former" CIA pilot who says that Zeta Reticulans are cloning hybrid alien-humans in underground bases) claims that there were NO PLANES involved on 9/11 whatsoever
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Rob Balsamo
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| Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Col. Jenny Sparks wrote: |
a) Their most famous and most experienced member |
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Please be sure to review the radio show linked above before replying as many regular members to this forum have already buried themselves deep enough...
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Have a nice day!
Rob
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Obviously Jenny hasnt listened to todays show... nor is able to source such claims.
(most famous? True... most experienced? False)
Dig Jenny, Dig!
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siddhartha
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| Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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I guess you don't have to be very smart to be a pilot, do you? The source for the quote in the headline is in the video in the original post. In the video John Lear represents himself as a member of Pilots for 9/11 Truth and he says that no planes were involved on 9/11. The source for the other information about Lear is very easy to find for anyone with an IQ above room temperature.
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Rob Balsamo
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| Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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| siddhartha wrote: | | I guess you don't have to be very smart to be a pilot, do you? The "source" for the quote in the headline is in the video in the original post. In the video John Lear represents himself as a member of Pilots for 9/11 Truth and he says that no planes were involved on 9/11. The source for the other information about Lear is very easy to find for anyone with an IQ above room temperature. |
So, why didnt you start the thread:
John Lear: "No Planes On 9/11"?
We know why.. .agenda much?
How many hours you have as a pilot? And if we arent "so smart", what does that make you?
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siddhartha
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| Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Awww poor little Robby doesn't like the negative attention that John Lear brings to his group. Imagine that! Well maybe we don't like it either. Get a clue, genius. |
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| Rob, you seem determined to confirm our estimation of your rationality. |
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Col. Jenny Sparks
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| Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Rob Balsamo wrote: | | Col. Jenny Sparks wrote: |
a) Their most famous and most experienced member |
| Rob Balsamo wrote: |
Please be sure to review the radio show linked above before replying as many regular members to this forum have already buried themselves deep enough...
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Have a nice day!
Rob
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Obviously Jenny hasnt listened to todays show... nor is able to source such claims.
(most famous? True... most experienced? False)
Dig Jenny, Dig! |
Wasn't my quote. Twas Siddartha's.
| Quote: | siddhartha wrote:
| Quote: | P45 wrote:
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"Pilots for Truth" IS a no planes organization
Can you quantify that statement? Just to remove any ambiguity.
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a) Their most famous and most experienced member (a "former" CIA pilot who says that Zeta Reticulans are cloning hybrid alien-humans in underground bases) claims that there were NO PLANES involved on 9/11 whatsoever
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I was just shocked by the lot.
Pay attention.
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Rob Balsamo
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| siddhartha wrote: | | Awww poor little Robby doesn't like the negative attention that John Lear brings to his group. Imagine that! Well maybe we don't like it either. Get a clue, genius. |
Im fine with Lear in our group... apparently you people obsess over it.
You are a handfull (read: very small minority) of anonymous individuals that really dont mean much. None of you have ever signed an affidavit, none of you have ever recorded the FBI/NTSB/NIST.
The majority of your time on this forum (that i've read) is dictating how other "Truthers" should serve YOU!
In other words, look at your "Truth Action" sections for "11th Of The Month" as compared to threads like this.
The agenda here is clear. Your motivation is clear. You attack other "Truthers" from behind your screen.
This is why your forum will never grow past double digits of traffic while our organization continues to grow, listed with our faces and names on http://patriotsquestion911.com.
Those are the facts.
Now.. any time you actually want to listen to Barrett's show today before looking more a fool.. feel free.
(a forum who gets perhaps 5-8 people logged on at any given time of the day feel they "own" and can dictate actions of "The Truth Movement" anonymously. Delusional comes to mind...lol)
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Col. Jenny Sparks
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| Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Rob Balsamo wrote: | | siddhartha wrote: | | Awww poor little Robby doesn't like the negative attention that John Lear brings to his group. Imagine that! Well maybe we don't like it either. Get a clue, genius. |
Im fine with Lear in our group... apparently you people obsess over it.
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Bit like all the prats coming here to troll the forum.
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Now.. an ytime you actually want to listen to Barrett's show today before looking more a fool.. feel free.
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Yeh, Barrett--lovely man when he isn't knocking people about or helping stalkers:
http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=31652&sid=5f08ee4b7764fdfa66b3c4c0bbc793e3#31652
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Col. Jenny Sparks
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Compare the blase "huh-what" idiocy of the "mainstream" truth movement's response to criminal behavior, to what happens in real politics:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Craig
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On August 27, 2007, the Capitol Hill newspaper Roll Call revealed that Craig had been arrested for homosexual lewd conduct in the men's restroom at the Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport on June 11, 2007, and entered a guilty plea to a lesser charge of disorderly conduct on August 8, 2007.[7] As a result of the controversy surrounding his arrest and subsequent guilty plea, Senator Craig announced his intention to resign from the Senate at a news conference on September 1, 2007, which was to become effective on September 30, 2007. After failing to withdraw his guilty plea, on October 4, 2007, Craig released a statement refusing to resign as senator for Idaho.
Craig was not a candidate for re-election in 2008.[8] He was succeeded by Lieutenant Governor and former Governor Jim Risch, a fellow Republican, who won Craig's Senate seat in the November 2008 election.[9] |
He acted a prat too, but his party--unlike the mainstream truth movement--had the sense to dump him.
Call me a bit funny, but IMO domestic abuse is far worse than lewd conduct between consensual adults.
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