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[truthmover]

It's official. We now, yet again, have two anniversary events scheduled for NYC this year.

Real Change Conference
http://www.wearechange.org/91109/

We Demand Transparency
http://changeandtransparency.blogspot.com/

As I suggested on my blog Sander Hicks had tried to facilitate cooperation between Luke and Les. In the process their previous problems with one another were scrubbed from the internet. You can still find that episode of the movement's history archived here:

Original WeAreChange "Declaration of NY911Truth" - Jamieson v Rudkowki scrubbed
http://www.truthmove.org/forum/topic/1590?replies=10

That cooperation appears to have been tenuous and broke down resulting in two separate events. And these events are very different.

That ends the journalistic part of this post. The rest is my opinion based on my movement experience and personal exposure to those involved.

While I have my differences with WAC and Luke, the Real Change Conference is BY FAR the more credible of the two events.

I nearly jumped out of my chair this evening coming home from a night out for a few drinks with friends to find that not only were Barrett and CIT still on the list but both Cindy Sheehan and Steve Alten had been added to the list of those participating in the We Demand Transparency event.

For a review of critical opinions of Steve Alten and The Shell Game have a look at this thread:
http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3309&highlight=alten

In my personal opinion, certainly shared by others, but totally disputed by many, Steve Alten is nothing but trouble. He seems to have added 9/11 facts in between the chapters of his book after writing it simply to capitalize on this movement. He has demonstrated no interest in this movement beyond it's ability to sell copies of his book. And I feel that many in the movement foolishly jumped at the opportunity to take advantage of the possibility that he might bring us some attention. That didn't happen. And his book was crap.

Barrett, Ranke, and Alten. Three people who I believe have done more harm than good for this movement. And all of this coordinated by Les Jamieson, responsible for the "Ready for Mainstream" conference in which Tarpley stated that regular posters to this forum including Cosmos were cointelpro agents.

There has never been anyone I've ever met in my life I trust less than Les Jamieson. His actions consistently serve to undermine the movement. I think we have due cause for concern that this conference, like the "Ready for Mainstream" conference, may do a good deal of damage. And that includes possibly dragging some really cool people through the mud.

Daniel Sunjata and Cindy Sheehan specifically. Cindy Sheehan is actually going to participate in an event with someone who sided against her in the Kennebunkport Warning. Barrett stood behind Fetzer and Tarpley who claimed that Sheehan was lying about having signed a different document.

And Daniel Sunjata is just a really cool and brave guy who has risked his career to support our cause and deserves the highest respect we can muster. Putting him on stage with Barrett and Alten is really upsetting to me.

Now, I'll admit that this event might not go so badly. If everyone minds their manners, it might end up working out alright and not doing any major damage other than promoting Barrett, Alten, and CIT. But the "Ready for Mainstream" conference did. We simply can't ignore precedent.

And also, I think it's important to note that it does the movement little good having competing events for the anniversary in NYC. I appreciate that the WAC event includes not one controversial speaker. They even got rid of Deagle.

As a result I would highly recommend two things. First that people in NYC attend the WAC event and not the Jamieson event. And second, that people who share any of my concerns make them know to the events organizers. Don't try to contact Les. He is famous for avoiding critique and being unresponsive. Contact Hicks. Let him know what you think of this big tent nightmare that he is helping to coordinate.

Well, I know that many may not many agree with me. But I had to say my piece. Here's hoping for the best. And I mean that.

[zombie bill hicks]

Thanks J, Im glad you started this thread. Maybe its possible that someone could contact Sheehan and Sunjata, bring them up to speed on this situation, and get them to agree to attend the WAC event instead. As a bonus, this might even derail the momentum of Jamiesons event, which IMO, would be a healthy result.


EDIT: Browsing WACs event website, I noticed it now lists Daniel Sunjata as a presenter.

[President Ford]

Perhaps having 2 events does serve us well. Especially if it can be continuously pointed out that one group has HUGE credibility issues over the other. After all, none of these people are going to go away. And, this situation is a pretty good illustration of how the movement is divided.

People who are not yet in the movement, they need to understand that we are not one big happy family. It doesn't work that way. People, in large part, have decent filters if they are given the facts. They can see the bullshitters as long as they are open to the fact that the bullshitters are lying to them. To be well-educated on 9/11, one must be familiar with disinformation and disinformation tactics. Then, everyone's true colors are exposed. People must learn that it isn't all so black and white and CRITICAL THINKING is the only way to decide for yourself what happened on 9/11.

In other words, maybe it is good to have them all in one place for a change. We need hundreds more posts like this one to keep pointing out the liars.

That said, we must try to reach out to Daniel and Cindy, and whoever else might get caught up in the crossfire. These two people are courageous individuals who deserve to have their backs covered on this. Especially Cindy, who was burned by Les, Webster Tarpley and Kevin Barrett over the Kennebunkport Warning, which is a vital story for every Truth Activist to be up on because it shows who the fake truthers are, and who will probably be attending Les' event.

See here, here, and here

[truthmover]

I posted an update to the Burnout blog largely based on this thread.

http://911truthburnout.blogspot.com/2009/07/we-demand-transparency-conference-big.html

[truebeleaguer]

Of course the appearances by Dr. Barrett and CIT provide a leafletting opportunity. Arabesque's list of Barrett quotes is damning all by itself.
I'd add to the list the opening to his email to Chomsky:

"As one of three American scholars to have lost a tenured or tenure-track job due to questioning the official story of 9/11 (the other two are Steven Jones, who just co-published a paper in a peer-reviewed engineering journal on the case, and Judy Wood) I would appreciate the chance to discuss this and other issues with you on one of my three talk radio shows."

This is a blatant lie. Barrett was a part time lecturer. That's not tenure-track. No one would ever even think about offering him a lifetime license for his assholery.

CIT's nonsense is easily taken apart. Roosevelt Roberts' impossible tale is the keystone of their tale, and simply abstracting it is enough to sink CIT. A half-page leaflet with Barrett on one side and CIT on the other would do it.

More effective than boycotting them might be to walk out on them, badmouthing their bullshit the whole way. Their presence could be a blessing, an opportunity to show the media what real truthers think of bullshitters.

[truthmover]

"We Demand Transparency" current speaker list.

Daniel Sunjata
Eric Lawyer
Kevin Barrett
Barry Kissin
Barrie Zwicker
Steve Alten
Richard Gage
Craig Ranke
Daniel Hopsicker
Mike Berger
Jason Bermas
Ellen Brown
William Bergman
Robert Steele
William Pepper
Manny Badillo
Bob McIlvaine

PLUS DJ Green Arrow will be present, at St. Marks Church, throughout the conference, attempting to set a new Guinness World's Record for longest free-style rap. Proceeds to benefit NYC CAN.

[YT]

[Arabesque]

[Col. Jenny Sparks]

[Col. Jenny Sparks]

[truebeleaguer]

Barrett wouldn't even apologize for coughing even if you were crushing his child's testicles in a vise.

Inability to apologize is the signature of the psychopath, in my experience.

[truthmover]

I really think we should get past this whole idea that Barrett would apologize and that an apology would somehow make up for years of bad behavior. The guy is a continuous liability to the movement. Good behavior doesn't excuse bad behavior. And a basic apology certainly doesn't.

At this point Barrett would have to write a book about his conversion in order for me to consider it even possible that he had changed his ways.

[victronix01]

Barrett's one of the people for whom "evidence doesn't matter", which is why he's constantly promoting "no-Boeing-impact" at the Pentagon.

It's fascinating to me that people want to find truth but apparently don't care about actual evidence.

[truthmover]

http://www.wedemandtransparency.com/

Total failure right on schedule.

First think you see when you get to the site if "Fuck" and the second and then the Obama Joker face.

[zombie bill hicks]

Yup, I just decided to say fuck it and not go to NY this year. Oh well.